Ya'll truly humble me, I've been part of some BBQ discussion forums before but when someone asked someone a ? when they are about "to throw in the towel" no response. I asked a question on brisket last night and WOW, This forum is exactly what I was looking for, I am not a BBQ pitmaster. I am however a backyard BBQ'er & smoker thats been trial and error for 8+ years. However ya'll and some of you I have never met, step up and give a nobody newbie some advise. I am in debt to ya'll and I am truly humbled by ya'll. Hope maybe someday I can help ya'll out but does not seem likely with all your expertise, so for now a BIG thanks to everyone. Thanks, WHB