Riddle me This

[BrianGSDTexoma]

Garage has water. Figure from those crazy storms. Today more water. Look in my water heater cabinet and water hose leaking. Go take of boat stuff and come home to work on. Fittings have crazy crude built up. Take one connector off and I get shocked and breaker in living room trips. I get my meter and have 80 volts from water pipe to ground. Final figure it out it was coming from the oven. When turn breaker off it goes away. Figured it would be water heater. So I disconnect oven and turn breaker back on. Still gone. I reconnect oven and try again and now its gone. I was getting error a while back from oven that meant bad control board and said turn off and back on. Been fine ever since. So could the over really be sending voltage to my water pipe? I guess leave oven off and shop for new one. Man the money going out. Got two cars tuned up yeasterday and he finds bad oil leak so now theres that.

 

[radioguy]

Most likely a neutral or ground mixed with a 110vhot. Are neutrals bonded together in only one place? Keep one hand in your pocket.

RG

 

[Steve H]

Now it's gone? Anything been done to your electrical circuits in your house lately. Get a simple outlet tester to see if you lost the ground. Or worse, the neutral. I'm assuming that the oven is all electric. Ask you neighbors if they have had any problems. If they have. I would talk to whomever supplies your electric. This could be a ground potential issue which can be fatal.
How far away from my main panel did you get the shock? Is there a ground rod next to your meter? If there is. Did you loose the connection to it. Look DON"T touch if the wire is off. If the ground is connected to the main water line. Check there as well.
I'm thinking you had a wet outlet or socket that caused the problem. And now it has dried. Around 80 volts is a good indication of this.

 

[BrianGSDTexoma]

Now it's gone? Anything been done to your electrical circuits in your house lately. Get a simple outlet tester to see if you lost the ground. Or worse, the neutral. I'm assuming that the oven is all electric. Ask you neighbors if they have had any problems. If they have. I would talk to whomever supplies your electric. This could be a ground potential issue which can be fatal.
How far away from my main panel did you get the shock? Is there a ground rod next to your meter? If there is. Did you loose the connection to it. Look DON"T touch if the wire is off. If the ground is connected to the main water line. Check there as well.
I'm thinking you had a wet outlet or socket that caused the problem. And now it has dried. Around 80 volts is a good indication of this.

It came back with power to oven on. I switched power off to oven and went away again. Somehow tied to the oven. 2 trips to Lowes and have water heater back up. The water pipe was not grounded. I ordered a tester. I could run a ground from pipe to ground coming into water heater. I will be looking for a new oven.

 

[TNJAKE]

Be careful bud. If stuff in my house was electrocuting me I'd call an electrician. I'd want to rule out a potential house fire

 

[912smoker]

Water and electricity can do some strange things. At first I thought possibly a bad water heater element. But the oven?
And Brian if you don't have time for this you have a nice new boat in the yard!

Keith

 

[Fueling Around]

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So could the oven really be sending voltage to my water pipe?
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Short answer yes.
Long answer it may be more issues as well.

I'm surprised you didn't get a tester while at Lowes.

 

[Nefarious]

If it were me, I'd have someone come in and look at it. Unless you want a new oven anyway, it would be a drag to replace it and still have the problem. It could be something very easy, and then maybe not.

 

[SmokyMose]

I know it's hard for some of us who have electrical experience but at some point you need to call in someone.
Sorry to hear about the oil leak. When it rains it pours....

 

[BrianGSDTexoma]

Yeah I trying to find someone.

 

[chopsaw]

Already been said to be careful . I used to do HVAC years ago . I was checking out a no cool on a condensing unit right after a rain shower . Had the gauges hooked up . Leaned in to read the gauges . Touched the unit , and also put a hand on the disconnect . Still gives me chills thinking about it . That F'n thing grabbed me and I couldn't let go . I was seized up so tight , I was sore for a week after that .

 

[Steve H]

This happens with just the oven plugged in. But nothing turned? Or just when it is actually heating. Is your oven a 3 wire 220. Or 4 wire?

 

[BrianGSDTexoma]

This happens with just the oven plugged in. But nothing turned? Or just when it is actually heating. Is your oven a 3 wire 220. Or 4 wire?

Does not need to be turned on just power running to it. When wire are disconnected nothing happens. I was getting control board faults recently with it. Pretty sure something wrong with it but still should not effect water pipe. I am calling someone this morning. Must be a something wrong with ground I guess. Looked outside and I dont have a ground stake but our power come under ground so the pole coming up to the meter probably the ground.

 

[Steve H]

Does not need to be turned on just power running to it. When wire are disconnected nothing happens. I was getting control board faults recently with it. Pretty sure something wrong with it but still should not effect water pipe. I am calling someone this morning. Must be a something wrong with ground I guess. Looked outside and I dont have a ground stake but our power come under ground so the pole coming up to the meter probably the ground.

I'm really starting to think you either lost a ground. Or a neutral. Depending on how the stove is wired.

 

[BrianGSDTexoma]

Is this a gas or electric oven?

Electric

 

[Steve H]

Electric

Figured that. Check my other post.

 

[BrianGSDTexoma]

I'm really starting to think you either lost a ground. Or a neutral. Depending on how the stove is wired.

I do get 120 on each leg.

 

[BrianGSDTexoma]

Everyone is booked up. Noticed a hum in panel and shut off breaker to patio and stopped and voltage on water pipe stopped. Something not right out there. Got shutdown for now.

 

[Fueling Around]

I'm really starting to think you either lost a ground. Or a neutral. Depending on how the stove is wired.

If you're comfortable taking the cover off your load center (panel) check all the wire terminals on the breakers. Then check all the ground and neutral connections.
Stove connections are very prone to getting loose with time due to stranded wire and extended load time.

 

[zwiller]

Already been said to be careful . I used to do HVAC years ago . I was checking out a no cool on a condensing unit right after a rain shower . Had the gauges hooked up . Leaned in to read the gauges . Touched the unit , and also put a hand on the disconnect . Still gives me chills thinking about it . That F'n thing grabbed me and I couldn't let go . I was seized up so tight , I was sore for a week after that .

Had a few pokes but nothing too bad. Rental had a electrified cast iron sewer line somehow.

Not licensed but experienced and love a good puzzle. Ran into something similar once. Subpanel at patio? Ground and neutrals cannot be mixed and must be separate.

I'd take covers off and post pics.