cure - how much? how long?

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laveen1

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I want to cold smoke a small (1 lb) piece of salmon for 5 or 6 hours, then cook it to a temp of 125. The salmon is at the most 3/4" thick - mostly 1/2" or less.

If I use a "cure calculator" (such as DIGGIN DOG's, I come up with: water + cure #1 + 2% salt + 1% sugar brine. Should a 24 hour cure make it safe to smoke at 75 degrees for 6 hours?

The calculator result is: 4 lbs water + 1 lb salmon + 6 g cure #1 + 41 g salt + 23 g sugar. If I brine for 24 hours the fish is a little too salty.
 

Could I safely reduce the salt percentage?
Could it safely be brined for less time?

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I have seen various recipes that only cure for a few hours.
 
I would ditch the water and just go with a dry mix
Use the calculator, with 156 ppm nitrite.
2% salt is what I use, but you could cut it back a bit.
I cure filets for a couple days so the salt and cure equalizes well.

~Martin
 
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I think that's what your calculator defaults to (BTW - that's a really neat piece of software). The last salmon I dry cured came out so salty it was inedible. (I probably used way too much cure. - I did not use your calculator.)

I'll try the next one dry, using ONLY your calculator's results. Is there a formula for days to cure? What happens if it cures a day or two longer?

What part of the cure makes the meat "safe" for cold smoking? Nitrite? Salt?
 
Not really a reliable formula for days to cure fish, it's just learned from experience.
Leaving it to cure a couple days extra shouldn't be a problem because you're using a calculated amount of salt, but it's essential that all your weights be very accurate.
The nitrite is the safety net in cold smoking.


~Martin
 
THANK YOU. I really appreciate your advice. I'll try to make time for pictures with the next smoke.
 
Laveen, morning....  I have been using the same recipe as DDF for a long time....  I add a small, very small amount of spices to the cure mix for flavor....  be sure to rinse the fish, do not soak, and dry under a fan to form a pelicle before smoking....  that will seal in the moisture and make for a very good smoke.....  Dave
 
Hi Dave: The last piece I smoked was not as moist as most of my prior pieces. I'm thinking that may be because I wrapped it after curing and drying, and put it back in the fridge for a couple of days before smoking it. That probably broke down the pellicle, allowing the smoking process to draw out moisture. (Does that sound right?) Ed
 
Ed, morning....  Yep.... sounds like you re dissolved the pellicle ......   Well, you and I both learned something....  probably a few others also.....  Thanks for sharing your experience....  that is how we learn on this forum.... even if the experiences are not good ones....  

Dave
 
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