2nd smoked pork butt - better than the 1st, but dear god the stall!

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snorkelinggirl

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Hi everyone,

Thank you to everyone that has been offering me advice on smoke quality in general, and smoking pork butts in particular. A big thank you to smokinjoe52, who is probably owed a retainer fee for all the PM questions he has answered. Yesterday I smoked a 4 lb boneless pork butt (that is what I had in my freezer).  I'm serving the pulled pork tonight for dinner with a few guests.

My husband isn't a huge fan of smoke or rubs, so I kept this simple by just salt & peppering the pork butt, and sticking it into my ST set at 225 deg F using an AMNPS with apple pellets for smoke generation. 

I placed the pork butt in an aluminum foil tray to hold in the juice, but I've since learned that most people would place the butt directly on a smoker rack to improve smoke contact. I'll try that next time. I didn't stick in the meat temperature probe at this point, because I was only going to apply smoke for a few hours before wrapping the butt (to keep the smoke taste light for my husband), so figured I'd stick in the probe after wrapping.  ST chamber temperature staying between 210 - 270 deg F.


I started the butt at 9 a.m.  After 3 hours of applying smoke.....


OK, so at 12 noon I wrapped the butt in aluminum foil and stuck in a temperature probe to cook until IT reached 200 deg F. IT was 110 deg F. 

By 3 p.m. the IT was at 160 deg F.  My husband and I went for a walk. We came back an hour later. IT was up to 169 deg F.  I am intoning serenely it will take what it takes....this is why I started a day early. 

At 5 p.m.....I am still being serene and patient but oh my dear god, IT is only 171 deg F. I am reminding myself, it will take what it takes.

At 6 p.m.....Struggling to hold on to serenity and patience but for f - - ks sake, IT is 173 deg F. Is this butt defective? Breathe, breathe. Bottle of wine opened and half the bottle kicked back.

6:30 p.m....Serenity and patience (and sobriety) gone. IT 174 deg F. Butt pulled from the smoker and put in the oven at 275 deg F.

7:30 p.m.....IT of 200 deg F. Yeah baby!  Butt pulled from the oven and allowed to rest for 1 hour.

Here is what the butt looked like after shredding it with 2 forks. Smoke taste is clean with no discernible creosote flavor. Much more tender than my first pork butt which I only took to 190 deg F. 


Shredded pork butt was mixed with the defatted juice, and put in the refrigerator for the night. I'll heat it up for dinner tonight on low heat on the stove.  The rest of the dinner menu is:

chile & chorizo cornbread (with homemade chorizo!)

kale sauteed with onions, coconut milk, and bacon (with homemade bacon!)

roasted acorn squash

Paula Deen's Not Yo' Mama's banana pudding

So what did I learn?

- Until I get this process nailed down, smoke the butt a day ahead.

- Stick in the meat temp probe from the get-go.....I think the butt must have still been frozen in the center when I put it in the smoker. I'm not entirely sure I made it from 40 to 140 deg in 4 hours in the center of the butt, but hope this isn't a problem as the IT was subsequently brought up to 200 deg.  

- I had forgotten to put in the drip pan underneath the ST. Maybe my chamber temps were colder at the front of the box?  It was 32 degrees outside for most of the day.

- The AMNPS works beautifully for generating TBS at hot smoking temps. But 3 hours of smoke is plenty for my husband.

- Um, next time I'll probably finish the pork butt in the oven after I am done with applying smoke. But I'll set the oven to 250 deg F, not 275 deg F.

Although this wasn't the smooth and worry-free smoking experience I had hoped it would be, I did learn a lot and also produced pulled pork which is tasty and I'm not too ashamed to serve to guests.  And anyway, the guests are just long-time neighbors who see me outside the house in my bathrobe, so it's not like I have a reputation to uphold.

Thanks for reading!

Clarissa
 
howdy clarissa . it could be your butt was still a little frozen. it did spend a little to long in the danger zone. it should be ok tho after getting to 200. i would check your temp Gage and make sure it is accurate. you can raise the temp in the smoker to 240 or so to get their faster. since you didn't use a sugar based rub you could even go higher in temp. if your smoker will go to 300. nothing wrong with turning it up. to power thru the stall.

happy smoken.

David
 
YEA!!!......sounds like a much better experience for you and think of all you learned with one pork butt. Sure you'll be ok with the 40-140 issue and with the probe most don't insert probe right away for fear of pushing bad buggies into the solid muscle. You just need to start eariler or get a bigger butt and put in the night before <grin>. I'd agree with you...butt right on the rack, switch to the foil pan much later when foiling. Home Depot sells these neat aluminum grill covers that fir right over the rack. I'm a t work so cutting this short. I'm sure your guests will appreciate your labors and the planned menu sounds fabu.Loved your blow by blow post....you should start a blog revolving around your smoking adventures. Enjoy your day & don't stress out over dinner....Willie
 
Sounds like a fun adventure..... Check the accuracy of your thermometers...... Usually in something like this you are actually cooking at a lower temp than you think....
 
Looks great!! I'd say you were right on track. 8 and a half hours isn't too long, even for a small pork butt. Since your husband isn't a fan of the smoke flavor, I'd say you could definitely bump your temps up to 275˚ and smoke for 3 hours, then probe and wrap. Should be through the danger zone by then and the wrapping and higher temps will pretty much eliminate the stall. By the way, smoking the day before is always a good idea. Weird things happen, and an extra 24 hours never hurts. I have a good friend who is a complete purist and INSISTS on 225˚, no wrapping and just letting nature take it's course. His last smoke was a 10lb. shoulder that took 19 hours.

Glad you had a good time, and the only other advice I'll give is to start on the wine well before the stall. It'll make you worry a whole lot less!
 
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