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  1. diggingdogfarm

    Cure uptake with immersion brining

    Yeah, we used the ingoing nitrite limit set by the government and the government's equation to determine compliance with that limit. The equation is just as important as the limit, they go hand in hand.
  2. diggingdogfarm

    Cure uptake with immersion brining

    Let's see your examples.
  3. diggingdogfarm

    Cure uptake with immersion brining

    As I said, It's easy to find instances of folks not understanding the handbook. :biggrin:
  4. diggingdogfarm

    Cure uptake with immersion brining

    Procesing Inspectors Calculations Handbook One must be VERY careful when using the handbook, it's intended for inspection personnel only and not the general public so it's incomplete in terms of some critical information. Unfortunately, that has led to a LOT of folks misinterpreting some of the...
  5. diggingdogfarm

    Cure uptake with immersion brining

    Simply put, it's the government's nitrite limit and the government's equations to determine compliance with that limit. They set the limits based on science.
  6. diggingdogfarm

    Cure uptake with immersion brining

    Maximum % pick-up (or gain) = (200ppm x total weight of the brine solution ÷ weight of the nitrite x 1,000,000) x100 So, using the numbers from the other thread..... 200 x 14456=2891200 24.8 x 1000000=24800000 2891200 ÷ 24800000= 0.11658064516 0.11658064516 x 100=11.67% gain, maximum, to stay...
  7. diggingdogfarm

    Cure uptake with immersion brining

    As I explained in the other thread, the only way to know for sure is to weigh. The 10% that was used in the equation IS NOT an assumption of what actual pick-up or gain will be, but in that example, we know that, AT 10% gain, we're within the limit. The greater the gain. the higher the ppm...
  8. diggingdogfarm

    Cure uptake with immersion brining

    Use an equilibrium brine and you won't have to worry about it. http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/124590/universal-cure-calculator#post_833396
  9. diggingdogfarm

    Prague Powder #1

    That's why, TWICE, I said that the only way to know for SURE is to weigh. I also said that 10% is an average...a common average. ....it's used VERY frequently. It's mentioned at least 9 times in the Processing Inspectors' Calculations Manual. Even the OP mentioned that "10% pump" is noted of...
  10. diggingdogfarm

    Prague Powder #1

    :head-wall: Again, PLEASE do some studying. I knew early on that this thread was headed for the crapper. I posted HOW to calculate IN-GOING nitrite...it's up to you or whoever to do the calculations for your particular situation....it's right there in black and white. PLEASE read ALL that I...
  11. diggingdogfarm

    Prague Powder #1

    :icon_eek: Sorry, but you're just not understanding this. I strongly recommend that you get a GOOD book and do some studying so that you don't worry yourself so much!!!!!
  12. diggingdogfarm

    Prague Powder #1

    In other words, they're not doing it correctly. which makes the PDF worthless.
  13. diggingdogfarm

    Prague Powder #1

    You're not understanding in-going nitrite, and neither does that SausageMaker, apparently. There are serious errors in that PDF. See this thread from a couple years ago... http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/137916/who-can-spot-the-errors Again folks, only use the formula I posted above to...
  14. diggingdogfarm

    Prague Powder #1

    Unsafe or MAY, possibly, exceed the government limit (for commercial products) by a little bit? As I said above, the only way to know for sure is to weigh...I'm not going to guess one way or the other. If he knows the start weight of the meat he can check at any time. That's why attention to...
  15. diggingdogfarm

    Prague Powder #1

    No, not that much. The only way to know for sure is to weight. Just so there's no confusion and everyone understands....percent pick-up is the total amount of brine solution absorbed by the cured product in relation weight.
  16. diggingdogfarm

    Prague Powder #1

    The 10% pick-up is just an average, actual pick-up may be more or less than that.
  17. diggingdogfarm

    Prague Powder #1

    Again, you need to use the formula above....the amount of cure #1 per gallon tells you NOTHING in terms of INGOING nitrite.
  18. diggingdogfarm

    Prague Powder #1

    There are countless brines that are all over the place in terms of ingredients. What's your point?
  19. diggingdogfarm

    Prague Powder #1

    Before this thread gets completely out-of-hand.....as I said above...if you want to accurately determine the ingoing amount of nitrite (that's what's important) in an immersion cured product...you must use the formula above. You can apply the formula to ANY immersion brine.
  20. diggingdogfarm

    Prague Powder #1

    What makes you think that one of them is wrong and in what way?
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