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Well the wife finally saw the MES today when she was on the back patio. She said " You bought TWO smokers?" I gave her the sob storry of I had to have one of each (leaving the hole open for the charcoal/wood smoker on wheels) She was giving me the look.. I just slapped myself on the back of the head and walked away (smiling of course) A few extra honey do's done today, and I am tired, but alive with 2 new smokers to play with