Shelf Stable Stix

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For those wanting some shelf stable sticks. Here re some that i made using the Len Poli recipe. Please do not re post his recipe online because of the Copy Right. Google and you will find.

I do these in the RV without and fancy equipment.


I used collagen casings. And they will peel right off if you would like.



 
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Not being a dick just trying to learn.

So sticks made with cure #1, bloomed overnight, and then dried on the counter for a couple days is ok or no?
 
Not being a dick just trying to learn.

So sticks made with cure #1, bloomed overnight, and then dried on the counter for a couple days is ok or no?

Sorry if I came across as condescending, that wasn't my intention. A couple of days like you describe will more than likely be fine. What Rick was referring to is days to weeks.

Poli's recipe has the correct stuff to use and the process for it.

As for questions, ask away, that's what this forum is all about.
 
No I meant it so you didn't think I was being a dick about questioning what you said.

I tend to ask a lot of questions to make sure. I need to know the "why" as to just following direction. I need to know why things need to happen and what the result will be if you don't follow.

Books and posts will tell you to do something but never the reasons why things need to be done in a certain way to get the specified result.
 
Using cure #1 your sticks, SS or Bologna will only be good (non fridge) on the counter 5-7 days depending on your temp in your house. Do keep them out of zip lock bags as the bag creates moisture which will kill your sticks.

Using cure #2 your sticks will be shelf stable (non fridge) for months. Yes they may grown mold but wipe them with vinegar. 

Sticks shown are cure #2. If your not going to eat them (some of us dont eat em all) you can vac seal both 1 & 2
 
He is going to get confused with pH and AW.

Keep it KISS for him

Keep

It

Simple

Stupid

Here is some cure info.

CURES - Cures are used in sausage products for color and flavor development as well as retarding the development of bacteria in the low temperature environment of smoked meats.

Salt and sugar both cure meat by osmosis. In addition to drawing the water from the food, they dehydrate and kill the bacteria that make food spoil. In general, though, use of the word "cure" refers to processing the meat with either sodium nitrite or sodium nitrate.

The primary and most important reason to use cures is to prevent BOTULISM POISONING (Food poisoning). It is very important that any kind of meat or sausage that will be cooked and smoked at low temperature be cured. To trigger botulism poisoning, the requirements are quite simple - lack of oxygen, the presence of moisture, and temperatures in range of 40-140° F. When smoking meats, the heat and smoke eliminates the oxygen. The meats have moisture and are traditionally smoked and cooked in the low ranges of 90 to 185° F. As you can see, these are ideal conditions for food poisoning if you don't use cures. There are two types of commercially used cures.

Prague Powder #1

Also called Insta-Cure and Modern Cure. Cures are used to prevent meats from spoiling when being cooked or smoked at low temperatures (under 200 degrees F). This cure is 1 part sodium nitrite (6.25%) and 16 parts salt (93.75%) and are combined and crystallized to assure even distribution. As the meat temperate rises during processing, the sodium nitrite changes to nitric oxide and starts to ‘gas out’ at about 130 degrees F. After the smoking /cooking process is complete only about 10-20% of the original nitrite remains. As the product is stored and later reheated for consumption, the decline of nitrite continues. 4 ounces of Prague powder #1 is required to cure 100 lbs of meat. A more typical measurement for home use is 1 level tsp per 5 lbs of meat. Mix with cold water, then mix into meat like you would mix seasonings into meat.

Prague Powder #2

Used to dry-cure products. Prague powder #2 is a mixture of 1 part sodium nitrite, .64 parts sodium nitrate and 16 parts salt. (1 oz. of sodium nitrite with .64 oz. of sodium nitrate to each lb. of salt.) It is primarily used in dry-curing Use with products that do not require cooking, smoking, or refrigeration. This cure, which is sodium nitrate, acts like a time release, slowly breaking down into sodium nitrite, then into nitric oxide. This allows you to dry cure products that take much longer to cure. A cure with sodium nitrite would dissipate too quickly. Use 1 oz. of cure for 25 lbs. of meat or 1 level teaspoon of cure for 5 lbs. of meat when mixing with meat. When using a cure in a brine solution, follow a recipe.
 
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Nepal

I'm not trying to confuse anyone but facts are facts. Keeping it simple just doesn't cut it. I usually don't get to much in depth about curing because everyone should learn to do it correctly then ask questions. Take your comments and please don't that it the worn way. First salt doesn't cure meats, it doesn't do it by osmosis and the Ph etc. is very important. Safety is #1.
I didnt say nothing about salt? And yes salt will cure meat. They didnt have modern cure 100 years ago.....EH

I'm not taking anything the wrong was as this is not my 1st Cured smoked or dry cured rodeo. And yes i agree to be CLEAN & SAFE.

This of my own opinion NOT the FDA or USDA.

Your results may vary and have a great day.

Hondabbq

Follow Crankys advise. Google Len Poli, Easy user friendly recipes.

Ok lets smoke
 
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