My Pastrami w/ Q-view

Discussion in 'Beef' started by grothe, Sep 24, 2008.

  1. grothe

    grothe Master of the Pit OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Picked up a brisket early last week


    Trimed off some of the fat cap...tried to leave about 1/4 inch


    Brined it for 10 days in:
    4 quarts of water
    1 cup kosher salt
    12 cloves crushed garlic
    8 bay leaves


    I was worried that my process wasn't right, so I picked up a corned brisket to compare with the one I brined


    Soaked both in clean water to remove some of the salt, then rubbed with:
    8TBS paprika
    6TBS coriander
    6TBS Brown sugar
    6TBS CBP
    4TBS ground mustard seeds
    10 TBS minced garlic

    Brisket I brined - cut in halve


    Store bought corned brisket


    Smoked w/ oak @230 till internal of 165


    brined one sliced


    Store bought sliced


    Other than the color difference (brined one had no cure in it) I really couldn't taste a difference...both were d**n good!!!

    Thanks for checkin this out.....mmmmm pastrami for lunch today!!
     
  2. mrsb

    mrsb Smoking Fanatic

    Looks great Gene, another addition to the "to do list". Thanks for sharing
     
  3. solar

    solar Smoking Fanatic SMF Premier Member

    Great job Gene!! [​IMG]
     
  4. good qview - going to try that rub as well. sounds like my kind of flavours :)

    Just out of curiosity. What was the price difference between the one you made (which was always going to be better lol) and the store cured one ?
    ie: how cost effective is it to make your own ?
     
  5. grothe

    grothe Master of the Pit OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Store cured was over double the price (almost triple)!!![​IMG]
    I didn't want to spend the money, but wanted to be able to compare the two.
     
  6. cowgirl

    cowgirl Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Great looking pastrami Gene! I like the way you compaired the two...thanks!![​IMG]
     
  7. bb53chevpro

    bb53chevpro Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Looks great. Nice comparison as well.
     
  8. richtee

    richtee Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Nice! And of course shelf life of the cured Vs. uncured. You really did not notice ANY difference in flavor tho? Interesting... Both look excellent!
     
  9. grothe

    grothe Master of the Pit OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Cowgirl,chevpro - Thanks, I wanted to see if the brining was right

    Richtee - There was no "Jump out at you" difference, and next time I'll cure. I was a little unsure of using it (haven't used cure before). I just got the sausage book you so rave about....big help!! Don't have it in front of me and couldn't even begin to spell his name!
     
  10. ronp

    ronp Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Nice job Gene, both look good to me. I wish I had your slicer.[​IMG]
     
  11. grothe

    grothe Master of the Pit OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    LOL!! Thanks Ron, yea I couldn't live without it....I'm not very good at slicing w/ a knife![​IMG]
     
  12. Try some allspice in that rub,, Ithink you will like it and you might want to substitute for some of the others. bcs
     
  13. waysideranch

    waysideranch Master of the Pit OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Nice job there Gene.
     
  14. big game cook

    big game cook Smoking Fanatic

    good job. both look very nice if i say so myself. i got a sclicer for $5 at a garage sale. a ss rivel electric. i havent got the chance to use it yet. but soon i hope. hope it works as gopod as that one does.[​IMG]
     
  15. div

    div Smoking Fanatic

    Looks good man....how long did u spend in front of the smoker with those ? lol
     
  16. roadrunr

    roadrunr Meat Mopper

    looks really good gene. i got one in the freezer for that purpose. cant wait to do mine....
     
  17. Okay just have to point this out.
    Both were actually cured. Just slightly different processes.

    Now I was going to bang on about nitrites being a recent thing - lol So I looked it up :) They are not - I would have been wrong ;-)
    http://www.graigfarm.co.uk/organic_b...am_curing.html
    This is worth reading.
    I'm not made of money so I would never buy graig farm meats - but they are a reputable company.

    Also the paragraph right at the end of the page where it says they've only recently switched to adding saltpetre. Presumably they'd been using just salt and spices before.

    Both curing methods are valid - and both have roots going back hundreds of years. Salt curing alone goes back thousands.
    Also the nitrites seem mainly to be used as botulism inhibitors - so if you're not vacumn packing your stuff you probably don't need nitrites. Although the part about ham is interesting. (yes rich I'm thinking about it, I've got a couple of kilos of saltpetre around - but it's only 99.9 % pure. No way am I adding that to food lol. I'll look around for curing salt mixes. We live and learn and when we stop learning - we'd better be dead lol)

    Anyway it's worth reading.
     
  18. grothe

    grothe Master of the Pit OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Thanks for the link aardvark[​IMG]
     
  19. been thinking about this. And it really onlyseems to be pork that needs the nitrites for curing.
    Beef seems to be the same with or without. Withness your brisket and my biltong. Both beef cured without nitrites and at least as good as the commercial products that use nitrites.

    Pork seems to have an odd response to salt - I have made pork biltong, tasted like salty gammon. Whereas every other meat I've biltonged hasn't tasted all that salty or changed in the way that pork changes.

    it's a thought anyway :)
     

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