Double-reverse flow ???????

Discussion in 'Reverse Flow' started by pitboss, Aug 1, 2011.

  1. pitboss

    pitboss Newbie

    I have a 42" X 89" used, rusty, old fuel cell (23.83 sq. ft. cooking area) that I am thinking about converting to a double-reverse flow smoker.  Shouldn't the exhaust stack be in the center of the smoker if the firebox is in the center?  My theory is that with proper damper adjustment there should be no hot spots.  Any pics / any suggestions?  This will be my first build.  I have no welding skills.

    Thanks,

    Pitboss  
     
    Last edited: Aug 2, 2011
  2. pitboss

    pitboss Newbie

    Is there anybody out there that can help me???????????

    Thanks a bunch,

    Pitboss
     
  3. alblancher

    alblancher Master of the Pit Group Lead OTBS Member

    Pitboss

    Lets see, no welding skills, a double reverse flow smoker and a rusty old fuel cell.  You sure are making it difficult for both yourself and us!

    Can you do a drawing and post it, maybe a pic of the fuel cell, thickness of the metal.  Not quite sure what a double reverse flow is.  Not trying to be contrary but let's start at the beginning
     
  4. smokinal

    smokinal Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator OTBS Member ★ Lifetime Premier ★

    If you have no welding skills & don't own a welder, you may be better off just forgetting about it & buying a smoker already built. If you have to hire a welder & fabricator& then buy the steel, I think it would be cheaper to just buy a smoker. But then I'm like you, in that I like to do stuff myself. I think your design is a good one. If your going to go forward with this. The first step would be a blueprint with all the details drawn in. Then post it here for the builder guys to look at & give their advice. Good luck!
     
  5. pitboss

    pitboss Newbie

    Thanks for the reply.

    I plan on putting the firebox in the center and run the smoke to each end under a drip / water tray.

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  6. Sounds like you will get some welding skills doing this project. Do you even have a welder so you can practice?
     
  7. alblancher

    alblancher Master of the Pit Group Lead OTBS Member

    Don't see why it wouldn't work,  not sure I would want the firebox by my knees while tending the smoke chamber but I have seen smokers with the firebox behind the front of the smoke chamber, away from my legs

    Any reason not to extend the baffle all the way to one end and make a simple reverse flow? I'm not sure how well the center of the rack would get smoke with your design.
     
  8. What if the exhausts are extended down to grate level. Less food area but it would pull all the smoke to the center of the grate.
     
  9. melleram

    melleram Smoke Blower

    Thats a pretty good idea there, unless you wanted to lay a whole hog in there.

    The firebox in the shins could be a little rough too.  Never thought about that. 

    My main concern in the other thread was how to ensure the smoke/heat splits and goes to each side evenly? 

    You could put a verticle divider under the baffle between the 2 intake stacks, but that still dosnt mean that it would draw evenly into the chamber.

    Sounds like a cool build though!
     
  10. smokingohiobutcher

    smokingohiobutcher Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Pitboss...here is a link to a post that I am going to use as a model for my center firebox build....someday.

    http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/forum/thread/101769/reverse-flow-build-just-getting-started

    And another one that Grok did following vetteguy's post.

    http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/fo...ed-firebox-reverse-flow-thanks-real57vetteguy

    Both these posts have some real good Ideas and these 2 guys did a  fantastic job documenting it.

    Also check out spankercheif's build.

    http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/forum/thread/104979/rear-facing-reverse-flow-barbecue-trailer

    Good luck!  i gotta pull up a large box! [​IMG]

    SOB
     
  11. pitboss

    pitboss Newbie

    Firebox would be at the rear of the smoker....not below it.  I think I could learn to weld with a little practice.  Are Harbor Freight welders any good?  ARC...MIG???  Which would easiest to learn for a newbie?  Probably not going to weld anything over 1/4 inch.  Well maybe the top of the firebox might be 1/2 inch to hold heat and to use as a stovetop????

    Anyone got pics of anything similar to what I am thinking?

    Thanks for all suggestions,

    Pitboss

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  12. melleram

    melleram Smoke Blower

    Last edited: Aug 2, 2011
  13. smokingohiobutcher

    smokingohiobutcher Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    I checked into the harbor freight welders then some one turned me on to  toolking.com  I bought a hobart125ez mig welder ...reconditioned for a little more than half the price than new.  Works like a dream, cant tell why it was reconditioned.  Also the same guy gave me a bit of advice....replace the cheap stamped metal ground clamp with a good quality brass one and you will not have any grounding issues....he was right!

    SOB
     
  14. Extended stacks to grate.

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  15. pitboss

    pitboss Newbie

    Found pics online................I think this will work.

    Thanks for any input.

    Pitboss

     

     

     
     
  16. sunman76

    sunman76 Master of the Pit

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    EASIER

    go ahead and spend the money for a decent welder that you can set up with shielding gas it will make life alot easier.

    HARDER

    or you can catch you a lincion 225 cracker box off Craig's list and start burning some rod.
     
  17. rowdyrawhide

    rowdyrawhide Smoking Fanatic Group Lead

    I personally would only use one exhaust flu, that way all of the heat/smoke will have to go all the way to the middle.  With two you may have an are that doesn't get any/enough smoke to it.  Not sure if that is a concern or not for you, but it would be to me of course I can be a little anal.

     MIG with shielding gas would definitely be the easiest to learn on, more than likely gonna pay more for it though.  I can tell you this you will not want to wear shorts or short sleeve shirt when welding unless you enjoy sunburns, welder burn is worse in my opinion.  
     
  18. roller

    roller Smoking Guru SMF Premier Member

    Sorry I am not a big smoker dude....but good luck...
     
  19. pitboss

    pitboss Newbie

    Thanks again for the input.  I was thinking one stack also.

    Trying to talk my X into welding it for me wearing a string bikini.

    MIG with gas...........O.K.

    Thanks,

    Pitboss
     
  20. Well you better take pics. [​IMG]
     
     

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