new to making sausage

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jamie g

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Jan 2, 2017
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I hope their's a short answer to this, any advice is appreciated. I've been wanting to make  pepperettes ( snack sticks). My plan was simple. use Morton's tender quick(because that's what I have)  for a curing agent. Spice accordingly and finish in the smoker.

  After some research I'm see Fermento and ECA used often.

So my question is, are these essential to use with the tender quick or is it a case of one or the other.
 
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Short answer, neither ECA nor fermento are required for snack sticks. Both of these provide a "sour" type flavor that one typically finds in a summer sausage.

I don't use TQ for my sticks, but some here do, so you should be able to find a recipe or 2.
 
Bearcarver has a recipe many on here like. I don't use TQ, however, TQ and ECA, or TQ and fermento are completely different animals. TQ is used in curing meat, and it can keep your meat from making you sick or worse by protecting your meat from harmful bacteria while spending too much time in the danger zone (40-140 degrees). ECA and fermento, as CB stated, are for achieving a "tang" flavor in the sausage, but they do nothing for protecting your sausage from bad bugs. If you don't care about the tang flavor, then you can leave out fermento or ECA. If you use ECA, do not grind again after adding it, or you will ruin your sausage. ECA is a citric acid encapsulated in a fat that melts at a certain temp......break those capsule too early (by grinding or by too high of a temp too early) and your sausage will be a mess.

http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/95395/unstuffed-smoked-beef-pepperoni-sticks-with-qview
 
Thank you so much, the world is much clearer now
 
FERMENTO - Use to produce a tangy taste in sausage such as summer, pepperoni and thuringer. The recommended level to start with is 3%, add up to 6% to produce a more tangy taste, but do not exceed 6% or the sausage will become mushy. This product does not require refrigeration.

ENCAPSULATED CITRIC ACID: Use encapsulated citric acid when making summer sausage or snack sticks and that distinctive “tang”, associated with reduce pH, is desired but the lengthy fermentation cycle is not. When used correctly, it is almost impossible to tell if the sausage was manufactured by fermentation or by the use of this product. There is no need to worry about processing under special conditions. You just add the citric acid to the meat at end of the mixing process (making sure that you do not grind meat again), and then blend into the meat by hand or by mixer. If using a meat mixer, mix only until the encapsulated citric acid is blended into the meat mix, usually about one minute is sufficient. Longer mixing can cause the capsules to rupture resulting in the premature release of the citric acid. Encapsulated citric acid is citric acid, a naturally occurring acid that has been encapsulated (coated) with maltodexrine, a hydrogenated vegetable oil, which will melt at 141-147 degrees F. releasing the citric acid into the meat product. This prevents the citric acid from releasing and prematurely lowering the ph of your sausage meat mix. If the meat’s ph drops before the protein sets at 105-115 degrees you will get a negative effect on the texture of your finished sausage. It won't bind as well and the texture will be crumbly. Encapsulated citric acid should be added and mixed in after the grinding is complete as not to rupture the capsules. Since the encapsulation prevents release into the meat until the meat’s internal temperature reaches 141-147 degrees F. a ruptured or damaged capsule will release the citric acid prematurely causing the undesired affects listed above. Once the capsule is melted releasing the citric acid into the product decrease in pH is achieved resulting in the distinctive "tang" or sour taste associated with reduced pH products. Suggested usage for this purpose is 3 oz. for 25 lb. of meat.

(Too much Citric Acid will cause the meat to turn white.) Also use to preserve color of fresh sausage during storage. Use 1/2 oz. to 1 oz. per 100 lb. of meat for this purpose.
 
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