I have been making this stuff for about 35 yrs. And it is real good. You can use very lean ground beef or venison or both as I did. It makes 5 lbs. I do not use casings just roll it up in logs. I smoked it with Hickory Pellets at 170* till the IT reached 152* then I wrapped each piece in foil and put it in the frig until it got very cold then sliced some up. It is great with cheese beer and crackers or just to snack on by itself...Thanks for looking..