Jimmy, I cant remember exactly what kind I started with. Now when I make my sauce I start with a plain hickory sauce, and add, apple cider vinegar, honey, mustard, brown sugar, soy sauce, teryaki sauce, worchester, liquid smoke, ketchup, and spices (garlic, pork rub, paprika, cayenne). The sauce I do like this is very well like by family and friends. Its a sweet and spicy sauce. I made my honey mustard base sauce similar to this but just cant seem to recreate it. I haven't given too much trial and error with it yet, just thought maybe someone could give me a certain ingredient that may make the difference. I know the last time I did it, I made my own honey mustard and added it to a similar sauce that I make now. There is just something missing that I cant put my taste buds on.