pit boss start up over shoot

[smokerjim]

I'm pretty new to the pellet grill world, I have a pitboss 1000, my question is when I start it on the smoke selection then turn the dial up it over shoots temp by 100 degrees or more and seems to take forever to fall back to the temp I want. just wondering if this is normal or am I doing something wrong. thanks jim

 

[Bearcarver]

I'm pretty new to the pellet grill world, I have a pitboss 1000, my question is when I start it on the smoke selection then turn the dial up it over shoots temp by 100 degrees or more and seems to take forever to fall back to the temp I want. just wondering if this is normal or am I doing something wrong. thanks jim

I don't know anything about Pellet Poopers, but I know how I fix that on my MES:
If I know my MES will overshoot to 270° when I set it at 230°, I'll just set it for 200°, and when it stops coasting at about 235°, I'll sneak the setting up to 230°.
That stops the big overshoots at the peaks & at the valleys.

Bear

 

[radio]

I'm pretty new to the pellet grill world, I have a pitboss 1000, my question is when I start it on the smoke selection then turn the dial up it over shoots temp by 100 degrees or more and seems to take forever to fall back to the temp I want. just wondering if this is normal or am I doing something wrong. thanks jim

contact their customer service as they deal with every issue imaginable on a daily basis and are best equipped to provide answers for you. Could be a control board or temp sensor issue and handled under your warranty

 

[smokerjim]

I don't know anything about Pellet Poopers, but I know how I fix that on my MES:
If I know my MES will overshoot to 270° when I set it at 230°, I'll just set it for 200°, and when it stops coasting at about 235°, I'll sneak the setting up to 230°.
That stops the big overshoots at the peaks & at the valleys.

Bear

yeah I never had much a problem with my mes 30, but maybe i'll try your trick with the pellet smoker, this only happens on start up after that the temps hold steady

 

[smokerjim]

contact their customer service as they deal with every issue imaginable on a daily basis and are best equipped to provide answers for you. Could be a control board or temp sensor issue and handled under your warranty

ok, i just wanted to see if this is normal or not before i get aggravated on the phone, which usually happens when talking with some of these companies, not sure how pitboss reps are yet. but i might find out.

 

[6GRILLZNTN]

Another vote for a call to customer service. I've never had that problem with my Rec Tec. I hope you get it sorted out.

 

[sweetride95]

I would assume the grill is fine, it just takes 20-30 minutes to stabilize in it temps.
When you call on more heat, the controller may be going 100% duty cycle to make up the difference. When the grill probe finally reaches temp, there likely was way too many pellets called on, and it simply overshoots temp. It's probably worse so on a cold grill. A PID controller is tuned to calculate temp deviation and constantly adjusts auger on-time to meet temp demands. Even a PID controller/grill setup takes 20 minutes or so to settle into temp.

 

[smokerjim]

thanks guys, next time I start it I will have to time everything, it seems way longer then 20 minutes to settle in i'll also try what bear said and lower the temp when it starts climbing and then a call to pitboss.

 

[RCAlan]

I'm pretty new to the pellet grill world, I have a pitboss 1000, my question is when I start it on the smoke selection then turn the dial up it over shoots temp by 100 degrees or more and seems to take forever to fall back to the temp I want. just wondering if this is normal or am I doing something wrong. thanks jim

SmokerJim, here’s a good read for you to help You get started with your PB...
https://www.smokingmeatforums.com/threads/pit-boss-820-issues.279287/
Good luck.. I know once You get it all figured out, you’ll enjoy your grill very much.

PB Austin XL in SoCal and Always... Semper Fi

 

[smokerjim]

SmokerJim, here’s a good read for you to help You get started with your PB...
https://www.smokingmeatforums.com/threads/pit-boss-820-issues.279287/
Good luck.. I know once You get it all figured out, you’ll enjoy your grill very much.

PB Austin XL in SoCal and Always... Semper Fi

ok thanks, I read through it but mine doesn't have the p setting, i'll have to read the manual again and try it again, this is only on the start up i'm getting the over shoot, other then that temps might swing 5-10 degrees sometimes not even that, I still like this thing it just takes longer to settle temp down then I thought it would.

 

[Little-m]

ok thanks, I read through it but mine doesn't have the p setting, i'll have to read the manual again and try it again, this is only on the start up i'm getting the over shoot, other then that temps might swing 5-10 degrees sometimes not even that, I still like this thing it just takes longer to settle temp down then I thought it would.

Yup. Usually what I do when the temp peaks and I am close to adding the meat, I just hold the door open for a minute to let the hot air escape. Then come back in a few and throw the food in.

 

[mike243]

All the metal is cold and will take a bit to even out, 30 minutes is usually plenty of time while I prep stuff, got 2 butts on there now and 4 more to do tomorrow nite. I cut them in 1/2 trying to make sure I got time to finish and pull before work . might wait and pull the tomorrow nite instead of the morning.

 

[RCAlan]

ok thanks, I read through it but mine doesn't have the p setting, i'll have to read the manual again and try it again, this is only on the start up i'm getting the over shoot, other then that temps might swing 5-10 degrees sometimes not even that, I still like this thing it just takes longer to settle temp down then I thought it would.

SmokerJim, which PB Pellet Grill do you have?? Most have P-Settings...
During the preheating process of going from Smoke mode up to 350* degrees, it’s normal that your grill will over shoot a bit and then come back and settle at 350* degrees. After 15-20 mins and your grills temp is holding steady at 350* degrees, then you’re ok to set your grill to your desired temp. For Me, during the Summer months, I’ll preheat at 300* degrees for 15-20 mins, but no lower then 300*... and during the Fall and Winter months, I’ll preheat at 350* degrees for 20-30 mins to help allow my grills temp to settle in at 350*. Preheating is so important for the PitBoss Grills, but doing so will help cut down on having temp swing issues especially during the cold seasons. To have temp swings of 5*-10* degrees that You’re having is very good too. It sounds like You have a rock solid grill. Good luck and enjoy.

Pellet Pro Austin XL and a few more mods... in SoCal and Always... Semper Fi

 

[Bearcarver]

ok thanks, I read through it but mine doesn't have the p setting, i'll have to read the manual again and try it again, this is only on the start up i'm getting the over shoot, other then that temps might swing 5-10 degrees sometimes not even that, I still like this thing it just takes longer to settle temp down then I thought it would.

Yup--Only on the start-up:
I like to call it "Momentum" with my MES. In other words, after a long run from "Off" to a setting like 250°, it builds up a Momentum, and even though the Heating element shuts off the built up heat keeps coasting upward for awhile, maybe even 50° or 60°.
Then it will turn around and begin to drop in temp, and keep dropping right past the setting of 250°, and even though the heating element comes on, it takes it awhile for the downward momentum to stop & turn around again, maybe even 40°. And each time it turns around it overshoots a little less. That's why my method I described above works so good. It cuts down the long runs & the "Momentum" early in the process.

I also explain it right here:
Avoid Temp Swings in MES


Bear

 

[smokerjim]

Yup--Only on the start-up:
I like to call it "Momentum" with my MES. In other words, after a long run from "Off" to a setting like 250°, it builds up a Momentum, and even though the Heating element shuts off the built up heat keeps coasting upward for awhile, maybe even 50° or 60°.
Then it will turn around and begin to drop in temp, and keep dropping right past the setting of 250°, and even though the heating element comes on, it takes it awhile for the downward momentum to stop & turn around again, maybe even 40°. And each time it turns around it overshoots a little less. That's why my method I described above works so good. It cuts down the long runs & the "Momentum" early in the process.

I also explain it right here:
Avoid Temp Swings in MES


Bear

thanks bear, i'm going to use it tomorrow after work, i'll try your method and let you know how I make out, unfortunately today I got to do the grass thing.

 

[smokerjim]

SmokerJim, which PB Pellet Grill do you have?? Most have P-Settings...
During the preheating process of going from Smoke mode up to 350* degrees, it’s normal that your grill will over shoot a bit and then come back and settle at 350* degrees. After 15-20 mins and your grills temp is holding steady at 350* degrees, then you’re ok to set your grill to your desired temp. For Me, during the Summer months, I’ll preheat at 300* degrees for 15-20 mins, but no lower then 300*... and during the Fall and Winter months, I’ll preheat at 350* degrees for 20-30 mins to help allow my grills temp to settle in at 350*. Preheating is so important for the PitBoss Grills, but doing so will help cut down on having temp swing issues especially during the cold seasons. To have temp swings of 5*-10* degrees that You’re having is very good too. It sounds like You have a rock solid grill. Good luck and enjoy.

Pellet Pro Austin XL and a few more mods... in SoCal and Always... Semper Fi

I have the pb1000t2, yeah i'm not worried about the little temp swings that's nothing, it's on the start up, I start it on the smoke setting, then lets say I put it at 300 it will shoot up to over 400-450degrees, and probably takes an hour to come back down, this just doesn't seem normal to me, but maybe it is, tomorrow i'm going to take notes when I start it so I can get the exact temps and time frame. thanks

 

[sandyut]

RCAlan has the right idea - if its hot where you are OR your unit is in direct sun and its warm, you may need to adjust the minimum auger setting, P setting or what ever your brand calls it. that normally is all it takes and it should be very easy.

 

[mike243]

open the door to drop the temps quicker, im slow loading and putting probes in so having it still higher may off set my loading times. it all works out well in the end

 

[sandyut]

Looks like pitboss calls it P- Setting. Its th pause between auger turns Different model, but page 14

 

[mike243]

There's the problem, they been changing stuff up and no 2 makes even though they are same size has the same control in it , or software/program . not sure which is the best but mine works well, somebody has 1 that P setting can be adjusted in any temp I think, that sounds more versatile than mine imo