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Agree. There is no doubt European, African and Native influence
Agree. I suspect those who have an issue with this are influenced by articles like this: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jul/04/barbecue-american-tradition-enslaved-africans-native-americans
As if European...
Exactly. Even in American BBQ there have clearly been European contributions. Not sure why people want to deny it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_smoked_brisket
Also I am pretty sure Cochon de lait did indeed originate in France.
Doesn't the mustard based sauce have its roots in South Carolina Germans? The first mention of smoked brisket is from a Jewish deli in Texas. Do the sausages of Central Texas BBQ not have German/Czech roots?
I see. So slaves started the tradition but the later Central European immigrants just added their contribution on top of that (beef, brisket, sausages, mustard sauces) then?
Cajuns weren't slaves though and not of African descent. So do they have a claim to helping start American BBQ as well?
Is Cajun cochon de lait also borrowed from slaves? Or did the French have a similar tradition?
Of course su porceddu didn't impact the US but it sounds very similar to pit bbq.
Su Porceddu | Traditional Pork Dish From Sardinia, Italy | TasteAtlas
Aren't there other traditions in Europe of roasting animals? I think Sardinia has su porceddu which looks similar to whole hog bbq. Could be wrong though.
I see. Not sure about Cochnillo.
Did they borrow the idea from slaves or did they figure it out on their own ? It seems simple enough in a warm environment to smoke the leftovers/
Even Central TX BBQ has its origins in slaves?
What about whole hog? Didn't the Germans in the Carolinas come from a tradition of roasting whole pigs (spanferkel) or individual cuts (mutzbraten)? Did the Spanish have cohinillo before arriving in the new world?
Do people smoke undesirable (or whole animals) low and slow in Europe? If not how come this tradition did not develop? Is there any truth to this tradition being borrowed from Native and African Americans.
Also I think it goes without saying Miachel Twitty is indeed a twit. As if only Africans and African American has slow roasted meats over open fires and Europeans and Middle Easterners didn't.
No surprise this triple chinned degenerate probably weighs 400 lbs.
Right. Other people had low and slow smoking but they didn't have the raise wooden grate which nobody really even uses anymore. Our modern BBQ is more likely related to European smokehouses imo.
I mean its hard to argue that this spit roast from Lebanon is not low and slow meat smoking.
Are parrilla grills good?
But going back to the premise of this thread seems like all of those things were invented by white people but yet BBQ is still somehow a black and native thing.
Despite Europe having
-indirect cooking of whole hogs (Sardinia), they are also sometimes spit roasted and...
I mean come to think of it pretty much every culture has some form of low and slow, cooked over indirect heat, BBQed meat. Youtubing found me examples of goat in Iran, lamb in Morocco being cooked this way with the wood fire at somewhat of a distance, underground or spit roasted with some...
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