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post #21 of 29
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Originally Posted by daRicksta View Post
 


I've no personal experience with this. My MES 30 Gen 1 worked well right out of the box. If there was an extra piece of metal that was part of the design of the 311 smoker. I looked at a video of that smoker and I didn't see it. You've got that model so your advice has factual credibility. I can only go by what I see inside my smoker.


Below are a couple pics of what the problem was:

 

Here you can see the extra piece of metal that was in the original 311 Gen #1 (where the arrow is):

smimg6884.jpg

 

 

 

Here you can see what the guys who didn't get the retro-fix did to fix their own Gen #1.

They just cut the extra piece of metal out:

DSCN0912.JPG

 

 
post #22 of 29
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Originally Posted by Brickguy221 View Post
 

I agree with Bear that with the AMPS, you can't beat getting up to 11 hrs of perfect, constant continuous smoke without having to bother with it, after getting it smoking properly. That is the benefit of the AMNPS that is #1 and second to none.

 

However, my problem with it to date is that it is weak on smoke taste to my liking on shorter smokes like 1-2-3 hr smokes. I haven't done any 8-10 hr smokes, so I can't comment there as it may give plenty of smoke taste on long smokes, I don't know.

 

I am new to this AMNPS smoking thing and still learning. I have used it on Pecan, Pitmasters Choice and Jack Daniels pellets so far, but haven't used it on what is supposed to be stronger pellets like Mesquite and Hickory, so they might satisify my taste for smoke better, especially on shorter smokes.

 

I do however love the "not having to bother with it once properly lit" part and not having to bother with wood chips every 20 minutes or so. It may take me a bit, but I WILL figure out somehow, how to get the smoke taste I desire from the AMNPS on shorter smokes as I do love the benefit it gives over wood chips.


I like more Smoke Flavor than most too, which is why I'm just about a 100% Hickory user. Try that---I think you'll like it.

 

 

Bear

post #23 of 29
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Originally Posted by daRicksta View Post
 

Bear, your reply in print came off kind of testy, like you felt I was contradicting you. I was just giving my own opinion. When I look at my smoker I don't see a way to change the distance between the heating element and the wood chip holder. I didn't see any metal to bend. But why would you even feel the need to write I'm not joking about that, and I don't BS. You're way too overly sensitive here. you can't take this stuff personally. That's how arguments and ugliness start in forums. Besides, I've made it clear I generally respect the info you give in your posts so why would you think I'd be out to diss you? Please lighten up. Again, it was just my opinion based on my smoker. You've got the same one TR22 has so most likely he'll lend more credence to your opinion.


It wasn't meant to be testy, but when I say many of us used to adjust the space between the bottom of the drawer & the Heating element, I don't particularly like to read others saying it can't be done, and you agreeing with them. If it couldn't be done, I wouldn't have been able to do it. That's why I said "I wasn't Joking & I don't BS"----I left out "I wasn't Lying!!!"

 

So I'm here trying to help a Newby, and others are telling him you can't do what I'm telling him to do. Makes me feel like I'm wasting my time trying to help people.

 

 

Bear

post #24 of 29
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Originally Posted by tr22johnson View Post
 

About 3 months ago I purchased the 40” digital SS smoker with remote. I originally loved the smoker for its low maintaince while cooking compared to a stick burner. At first the unit would put out a ton of smoke-so much smoke that you couldn’t see in the window and smoke leaking out the door seams-I loved it. But-the last 5-6 times I have used the unit, I have been getting hardly any smoke. I have cleaned out the tray after each use, which used to be ashes when done at first, but now is charred chips. The heating element appears to be working as the meat is cooking in the same time frame as on my stick burner at 225°. Has anyone else inquired with the same problem or do you have a solution to be able to produce more smoke, like when I first bought the unit?

Have never soaked chips

Have tried both pre-loading prior to turning the unit on as well as loading through the chute.

Thank you in advance for any advice

 


Tr22johnson,

 

Just in case---Check this thread out too----This one had a Happy Ending:

http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/172069/mes-30-zero-smoke-what-am-i-doing-wrong

 

 

If that has nothing to do with yours, then I still think something got bent upwards, causing the space between the element & the Drawer to be to far apart.

I'm thinking that because you said it worked good the first 4 times, and all the hints you gave don't show any other changes you made.

So either you're pushing the drawer in wrong, like the link above, or something happened to change that space I keep mentioning.

 

Let me know what you figure out, so I'll know the next time this comes up.

 

Thanks,

Bear

post #25 of 29
I have the same MES 40 with remote. I had the same problem today. I have it full of meat (2 rabbits, a chicken, and a pork loin) so I had no time to play around with it! I just pulled my tray out a couple times trying to put it back in where it was as close to the element as possible. It is pouring smoke now with a full tray of pellets. I may take a better look after it cools down.
post #26 of 29
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Originally Posted by Brickguy221 View Post
 

I agree with Bear that with the AMPS, you can't beat getting up to 11 hrs of perfect, constant continuous smoke without having to bother with it, after getting it smoking properly. That is the benefit of the AMNPS that is #1 and second to none.

 

However, my problem with it to date is that it is weak on smoke taste to my liking on shorter smokes like 1-2-3 hr smokes. I haven't done any 8-10 hr smokes, so I can't comment there as it may give plenty of smoke taste on long smokes, I don't know.

 

I am new to this AMNPS smoking thing and still learning. I have used it on Pecan, Pitmasters Choice and Jack Daniels pellets so far, but haven't used it on what is supposed to be stronger pellets like Mesquite and Hickory, so they might satisify my taste for smoke better, especially on shorter smokes.

 

I do however love the "not having to bother with it once properly lit" part and not having to bother with wood chips every 20 minutes or so. It may take me a bit, but I WILL figure out somehow, how to get the smoke taste I desire from the AMNPS on shorter smokes as I do love the benefit it gives over wood chips.


From my experience with the AMNPS, you will get far more smoky flavors from hickory, mesquite, and oak wood pellets. But I agree from my experience smoking baby back and St. Louis ribs that the smoky flavors can be less intense with shorter smokes, although I get plenty of smoky flavor when cold smoking cheeses for just a few hours over wood pellets.

 

As for wood chips, a friend of mine recently smoked a beef brisket on his natural gas grill for 9 hours using hickory wood chips with the cover closed. He made a smoke packet and replaced the wood chips every 45 minutes or so. I tasted the finished product and we both agreed there was absolutely no smoky taste to the meat. Neither of us know where he went wrong.

post #27 of 29
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Originally Posted by Bearcarver View Post
 


It wasn't meant to be testy, but when I say many of us used to adjust the space between the bottom of the drawer & the Heating element, I don't particularly like to read others saying it can't be done, and you agreeing with them. If it couldn't be done, I wouldn't have been able to do it. That's why I said "I wasn't Joking & I don't BS"----I left out "I wasn't Lying!!!"

 

So I'm here trying to help a Newby, and others are telling him you can't do what I'm telling him to do. Makes me feel like I'm wasting my time trying to help people.

 

 

Bear


All I'll say is that you came across testy or angry in print. Now I'm done with this conversation.

post #28 of 29
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Bearcarver View Post


Below are a couple pics of what the problem was:

Here you can see the extra piece of metal that was in the original 311 Gen #1 (where the arrow is):

smimg6884.jpg




Here you can see what the guys who didn't get the retro-fix did to fix their own Gen #1.
They just cut the extra piece of metal out:
DSCN0912.JPG






 


This is what mine looks like-
I did not cut the piece out yet but after placing a thermometer inside and let it stabilize with no meat in there and the temp set to 225 the thermometer only read 200constant, so I bumped the temp up to 240 and then got a constant 225. I assume it is not common to have that big of a difference... I also pulled the load tube out slightly to try and create an airflow. Started putting out more smoke than before.
post #29 of 29
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Originally Posted by tr22johnson View Post


This is what mine looks like-
I did not cut the piece out yet but after placing a thermometer inside and let it stabilize with no meat in there and the temp set to 225 the thermometer only read 200constant, so I bumped the temp up to 240 and then got a constant 225. I assume it is not common to have that big of a difference... I also pulled the load tube out slightly to try and create an airflow. Started putting out more smoke than before.


Most of them are way off when you compare the MES read-out temp to an accurate therm. That's one of the reasons most of us get a set of Maverick Digital wireless therms, like the ET-732, or something similar. You just can't trust the therms that are built into Smokers.

It's up to you what you want to do with your smoker. You can leave it alone & see how good it smokes. You could cut that piece out, and get it to smoke at a lower temp. Or you could leave it alone & get yourself an AMNPS & pellets, and Smoke Happily Ever After. That's what I did & I haven't put a Chip or a Chunk in my MES 40 in 5 years.

 

 

Bear

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