problem, sausage making

palladini · May 5, 2014

Well I went to a local store here in town that has a butcher counter, asked for 4 lbs, or slightly more, told her I need 4 lbs for sausage, what did she give me, 3.85 lbs.

The problem is, all my spices are already set for 4 lbs, including pink salt

I am making the recipe found here - http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/110217/smokies.

If I proceed, would I add just a bit more pork or what?

daveomak · May 5, 2014

Add more anything.... beef, bacon, pork.... Dave

disco · May 5, 2014

You are very close to 4 pounds but if you are worried, buy a pork chop, steak, ground pork, etc and chop a 0.15 pound off and chop it in. For that small amount you could even use beef or chicken and you won't notice it.

Disco

bkleinsmid · May 5, 2014

Palladini........morning.....

That recipe calls for 5 lb's of meat.......not 4. If all your spices are measured out for 4 and you only have 3.85 lb, just leave out that tiny bit.......or grab a tiny bit of pork to bring the weight up.

Brad

palladini · May 5, 2014

Well, I cut up the beef roast, then weighed the bowl, then the beef in the bowl, just under 3 1/2 lbs. Cut enough off the pork roast to equal 5 lbs, Then I ground it all up, added the spice and water mix, then mixed it well. It is now in the beer fridge, in the bowl, overnight.

Tomorrow I plan on stuffing this meat into 19 mm collagen casings. But before i do that, I am going to do test fry. Not sure what the taste equivalent will be as compared to the smoked/ dried finish will be, but I am sure the second or third time, I will get it right.

The rest of the pork roast, cut it up, grind it up, then add some SPOG and form patties

kesmc27 · May 5, 2014

Just add add a small dab of anything pork ground and you're good

daveomak · May 5, 2014

Don't rely on the fry test.... after the smoke etc. it takes on a whole new taste profile.....

diggingdogfarm · May 5, 2014

Yep, a fry test is a waste of time, IMHO.

~Martin

voodoochile · May 5, 2014

.15 lb aint gonna make a difference

stanjk · May 6, 2014

Agree, .15 lb. won't make a difference; especially if your using a tsp. to measure.

bigbob73 · May 6, 2014

I like mine spicy. You won't know the difference.

palladini · May 6, 2014

Yes sir, got 1/2 the sausage stuffed, had to call it a night. Had my neighbour came over, he works until 5 PM, then is about 40 minutes from home, he had to eat and have a shower, then showed up around 7 and we got to stuffing the meat into 19 MM collagen casings. We shut it down about 10 PM, about 60% done. We will convene tomorrow night to finish it off.

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palladini
May 6, 2014

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palladini
May 6, 2014

Meat all mixed up, put in fridge overnight, got it out, added a

little water, as seen in pic below.

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palladini
May 6, 2014

All ready to go, mid afternoon meat and stuffer parts are in

the freezer, until go time.

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palladini
May 6, 2014

Got a start, Tapered sausage stuffing tubes suck when using

19 MM collagen casings. I did not end there as seen by

lengths of those sticks, that is all the casing I could get on

that stuffing tube. From Picture below, before we finished

tonight, doubled that amount

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palladini
May 6, 2014

The decision is made, I need to straight, either Metal or

Plastic stuffing tubes, like I said above this tapered one

sucks for 19 MM collagen casings. As you can see in the

picture, by this point we had taken the Dremel machine

and sand paper and removed about 3/4 the length of those

ribs on the side of the tube.

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More to come

daveomak · May 6, 2014

Brass or copper tubing works..... flare the end and insert into the plastic tube.... anneal while flaring.... maybe you will need a washer slipped over the tube also......

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daveomak
May 6, 2014

http://www.grainger.com/product/KS-ENGINEERING-Tubing-4EEH5

palladini · May 8, 2014

OK, finished stuffing them last night. No if buts or ands, I am going to find, and this is big issue, straight sausage stuffing tube, either Plastic or steel, that fit my stuffer/grinder has a base diameter of 65 MM My tapered ones suck for 19 MM casings

Started the smoker this AM, running it at 100 F for a while to dry these peppperettes off.

elginplowboy · May 8, 2014

U need to get u a LEM 5lb vertical stuffer for your small casing sticks. Buy the 3/8 straight tube seperate and leave the grinder for grinding. U will not believe how much easier it is and meat won't come out emulsified like a hot dog. I used my grinder to stuff for some twenty years till a buddy asked me to stuff some sticks like yours and I about killed my arm. Bought the vertical stuffer on sale and couldn't believe the difference and time wasted doing it the other way. Now I will never use a grinder to stuff again. Since u r doing small sticks make sure to get metal gears otherwise the plastic ones get chewed up.

palladini · May 8, 2014

ElginPlowboy said:
U need to get u a LEM 5lb vertical stuffer for your small casing sticks. Buy the 3/8 straight tube seperate and leave the grinder for grinding. U will not believe how much easier it is and meat won't come out emulsified like a hot dog. I used my grinder to stuff for some twenty years till a buddy asked me to stuff some sticks like yours and I about killed my arm. Bought the vertical stuffer on sale and couldn't believe the difference and time wasted doing it the other way. Now I will never use a grinder to stuff again. Since u r doing small sticks make sure to get metal gears otherwise the plastic ones get chewed up.

Yes, That is on my wish list, one with metal gears is way out of my disability income.

daveomak · May 8, 2014

[quote name="Palladini" url="/t/161982/problem-sausage-making#post_1173536

Yes, That is on my wish list, one with metal gears is way out of my disability income.
[/quote]

I have the Grizzly 5# stuffer and find absolutely no problem with the nylon gears.... Lube the o-ring and add a little water to the meat mix and it works great... I think the metal gears are hype... I think some folks may have run the piston into the bottom of the canister and broke the gears.... I don't see how you could break them normally stuffing.... Grizzly's stuffer normally sells for around $89.... they do go on sale like before the 4th or labor day or x-mas.... 84.95 http://www.grizzly.com/products/5-lb-Sausage-Stuffer-Vertical/H6252

order an extra o-ring while you are at it....

palladini · May 8, 2014

DaveOmak said:
[quote name="Palladini" url="/t/161982/problem-sausage-making#post_1173536

Yes, That is on my wish list, one with metal gears is way out of my disability income.

I have the Grizzly 5# stuffer and find absolutely no problem with the nylon gears.... Lube the o-ring and add a little water to the meat mix and it works great... I think the metal gears are hype... I think some folks may have run the piston into the bottom of the canister and broke the gears.... I don't see how you could break them normally stuffing.... Grizzly's stuffer normally sells for around $89.... they do go on sale like before the 4th or labor day or x-mas.... 84.95 http://www.grizzly.com/products/5-lb-Sausage-Stuffer-Vertical/H6252

order an extra o-ring while you are at it....[/quote]
I put that on my wish list on that site

stanjk · May 9, 2014

I'll second DaveO's; I have the same stuffer for more than 7 years with no problems stuffing 19 mm and up.

oldeboone · May 9, 2014

Hi. Dave. I think we all have had the experience of meeting people that if they had access to any kind of machine it would be the equivalent of giving a monkey a hand grenade !!!! Ernie

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