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post #1 of 14
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I am a newb to curing meats and am an American(chef) living in Nepal. I really miss my corned beef and many other cured meats from back home and was looking into doing it myself. This is Nepal and there is no Prague Powder, Insta Cure, or any other curing product that I am aware of that contains sodium nitrite. We have an abundance of pink salt but that contains no sodium nitrite.

 

I have been able to find sodium nitrite from a dye manufacturer but am concerned if it is food grade or not? Does anyone here have information regarding the differences between food safe sodium nitrite and that which is not?

 

I would really appreciate any links or information from anyone that know. Thanks very much!

post #2 of 14

Hello. I'm afraid I can't help with the specific question but you could check Nepal's regulations on have curing salt shipped from the U.S. or U.K..  I have things I can't get here shipped from the U.S..  The shipping costs may be eye-watering but needs must sometimes.  One other thought, search the web for an American food site in Nepal or India.  These co-ops do exist in many countries.  They may be able to help or at least tell you about the regs.  Good Luck.

post #3 of 14

I assume it has to be food grade. Insta cure #1 contains 6.25% sodium nitrite and 93.75% salt/sodium chloride. How hard is it to order online and go through customs

post #4 of 14
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Thanks for the replies. I will look into some co ops never heard or thought of that.

 

As far as getting things shipped here from US it costs around $100 per pound! To expensive unless I can get a discount through a co op order. It would just be easy/cost effective if I could use the sodium nitrite here, but am unsure of the food grade. Shipping from either India or China might be the best way to go.

 

Anyone have knowledge of a good company in India or China to supply sodium nitrite or curing salts?

 

But what makes sodium nitrite food grade or not? Is it just the purity or is it treated in some manner?

 

Thanks again for the replies. The more I think about curing corned beef the more I salivate.

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Originally Posted by CousinOpey View Post

Thanks for the replies. I will look into some co ops never heard or thought of that.

 

As far as getting things shipped here from US it costs around $100 per pound! To expensive unless I can get a discount through a co op order. It would just be easy/cost effective if I could use the sodium nitrite here, but am unsure of the food grade. Shipping from either India or China might be the best way to go.

 

Anyone have knowledge of a good company in India or China to supply sodium nitrite or curing salts?

 

But what makes sodium nitrite food grade or not? Is it just the purity or is it treated in some manner?

 

Thanks again for the replies. The more I think about curing corned beef the more I salivate.

Purity makes it food grade.....  If you can find a laboratory supply, that will be food grade...  Then you have to dilute it to acceptable levels for easy use.....  It is highly poisonous if too much is ingested...   I found this Sodium Nitrite used in dying.... 99%... not food grade... Says so in the description....  

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003RRHTYS

post #6 of 14
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Thanks for the info Dave. Unfortunately the link you gave has differing information. The header states 99% pure food grade, but then in the description it states not for food use. So which is it, lol? Reading the comments other users expressed similar confusion with no answer to being found.

 

Looking at other sellers they sell 99% pure sodium nitrite and state it as being food safe, in the header and description.

 

Also when you mention diluting the sodium nitrite are you referring to using 6.25% nitrite, and 93.75% sodium/salt? Or is there something more I need to do?

 

Thanks again!

post #7 of 14

Its food safe when mixed in the right amount with salt and sugar.

 

Unless your going to make something else.  icon_eek.gif

 

post #8 of 14
I definitely would not use it unless you know for sure it's food grade, there's no telling what weird stuff may be it it!!!!



~Martin
post #9 of 14
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Originally Posted by CousinOpey View Post

Thanks for the info Dave. Unfortunately the link you gave has differing information. The header states 99% pure food grade, but then in the description it states not for food use. So which is it, lol? Reading the comments other users expressed similar confusion with no answer to being found.

 

Looking at other sellers they sell 99% pure sodium nitrite and state it as being food safe, in the header and description.

 

Also when you mention diluting the sodium nitrite are you referring to using 6.25% nitrite, and 93.75% sodium/salt? Or is there something more I need to do?

 

Thanks again!

That's what I'd do....  6.25 grams + 93.75 grams salt...   This next part I'm not sure about but here goes......  Maybe Rick or Martin knows if this next step is Kosher....... 

Since sodium nitrite is extremely soluble in water, dissolve it in distilled water, add to the salt and mix very well, add red food coloring or  some coloring agent.......  let the solution evaporate in an oven @ 225 F..... when totally dry, pulverize gently, wearing a mask and gloves, store in a container that is marked Cure #1 (as long as you make it 6.25%), and store away from kids in a safe place....

 

 

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Originally Posted by nepas View Post

Its food safe when mixed in the right amount with satl and sugar.

 

 

 

That makes perfect sense to me......  but I'm gullible ...   and I believe everything you say...or write...    

 

Dave

post #10 of 14
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Still trying to figure this out but I talked with a chemist in the US. He stated that in the US for a chemical to be approved for food use, the equipment used to process the material must only be used for food safe substances and/or the equipment needs to have a costly and thorough cleaning.

 

I think I am need to import sodium nitrite from the states, unless I can guarantee the quality/safety of the product here th_crybaby2.gif. Thanks all for your help!

post #11 of 14

I think that might be safest.  Postage from U.K. might be cheaper?  Just a thought.

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Hi Cousin....

I'm sort of in the same situation as you....I live in Thailand and have searched all over the country for Prague salt, but was only able to find a European version with .8%nitrite and seems most recipes use the American standard of 6.25%.  I was able to locate a chemical supply house that [claims] their nitrite is food grade.

To make a long story short, I ended up in getting some proper Prague cure #1 mailorder from the states, sent to a friend, who re sent it to me in Thailand.  Original cost was $6.99/lb, but by the time I added postage to him, then international postage to me, the cost per pound came to about $35/lb. Nepal is a lot more remote than Thailand, but it seems that in Asia, we have to improvise and be resorceful or pay big $$.

One idea would be to ask around about what the locals use to preserve meat.  I'm sure there are preserved meats there in Nepal.

BTW.....hows the weather there now?? It's hotter than hekk here in Thailand and not too inspiring to do a hot smoke, but I'm going to go ahead with a couple of chickens that I had in an herbed salt brine.  Maybe you could stay with recipes that call for salt brines and not nitrites??

 

Best of luck and let us know what you find

there...........

Jack

post #13 of 14

You said the Shipping may be at $100 a pound but considering the small amounts used, a Pound of Cure #1 will last a long time. Spread out over a couple of Years, $100 is Cheap...JJ

post #14 of 14

Hello again Cousin....

Just out of curiosity, I checked the USPS international priority postage rates and they are the same for Nepal as Thailand for a small box that 2 lbs will fit into exactly. http://ircalc.usps.gov/MailServices.aspx?country=10296&m=13&p=0&o=1&mt=13     $23.95....less than a week to Thailand.

 

I had the order sent to my friend in California from The Spice House   http://www.thespicehouse.com/spices/curing-salt     and he sent to me in Thailand.

The spice house shipping was about $20 for 4lbs. 

 

That is one way to get it in a couple of weeks and the 2 lbs that I got will cure 800lbs of meat, so  really not too much if you look at it that way.  Maybe you can share costs with others that may be interested to bring costs down??

 

Jack

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