Smoking some St Louis Ribs and last few times not as tender - obviously i am doing something wrong.

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eclipse31satx

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Sep 2, 2012
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Hey guys, new to smoking.  over the last few months i have smoked some st louis style ribs about 5 times.  i am using 321.  the last two times they have not been as tender - almost falling off the bone. here is a break down of what i have done in the past and what i feel i have done differently and looking for confirmation that these changes would have made that much of a difference. 

I use an MES smoker i am smoking

Smoking at 225.  the first 3 times i used an external thermostat to monitor temperature but it was very consistant with the built in thermostat so i did not use it the last two times. 

the first 3 times for the "2" in 321 i used a foil pan covered in foil.   the last two times i have used a non stick 9x13 baking pan covered in foil.

other than those two things everything is done the same.  i did watch BBQ masters last week and they had a KC episode where they were doing some ribs.  i noticed they were doing theirs at 275 for 5 hrs (maybe 7 i dont remember).  the high temp kinda confused me. 

forgot to mention i also have a rack of beef ribs in the smoker and they have had the same results each time as the St Louis ribs 

any tips/suggestions?
 
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Go back to what you were doing the first few times when they came out tender.

Also, it has been my experience that the thermo on a smoker (any smoker I've owned) is inaccurate.  I always use an external digital thermometer to monitor the pit temperature.  I know folks who smoke their ribs at higher temps and have good results.  Use the bend test to check for doneness if you like, or a toothpick inserted that goes in and comes out like it was going into warm butter.

I would stick with foil only or your foil pans.  The use of the baking pan could draw heat away from the meat (acting as a heat sink).

Good luck with the next rack!

Bill
 
I prefer the St Louis cuts of ribs. I do the 3-2-1 method. Most times I don't make it to the "1" part. Use a dry rub...for the 3 hours ......foil....put brown sugar....parkway margerine..a little squirt of honey.....and a bit of Wickers. Plop those bad boys in and go for 2 hours. Check for done-ness. Done! My temp on the CCSV is about 250. Works for me.
 
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remember on bbq pitmasters they are usually under a time constraint forcing them to go a little higher than 225. i dont know if it makes a LOT of difference but when i wrap my ribs (i have an mes 30) i just wrap the ribs very tightly in foil and put them back on the rack. no pans, no dishes, no nothing. just foil and ribs. ive done ribs a few times now and they turned out perfect every time. make sure there is enough liquid in your foil sauce so that it wont go dry during the process.

MC
 
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