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2012 MES 40 vs. Old Model MES 40 - Page 5
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This last 2012 MES I got from SAMS had a crack in the door frame, along the bottom
I'll call Masterbuilt today and see what they want to do
Controller is 20° - 25°+ Off
Set 205° = 225° on the 2nd Rack
Set 225° = 250° on the 2nd Rack
Set 250° = 275° on the 2nd Rack
Set 275° = 300° on the 2nd Rack
TODD Where Did You Go??
What did masterbuilt do re: your cracked door?
What happened re: the mod you were working with/on to try to even out the temps in your 2nd gen Sams Club MES40?
You simply can NOT just let the story end here ...
... please ...
Well, I didn't go away.....!
Today, I fired up my MES 40 2nd Gen, to smoke some dog treats
Haven't even looked at it since I got a 4th replacement body from Masterbuilt, and seasoned the box
This is the 2nd time it has ever been turned on
Turned it on today, and there was a distinct smell of melting plastic......Hmmmmm!
Then, I started taking a good look at the inside, and there's "RUST" and "Corrosion" Everywhere!!!
Thought this unit was "Stainless Steel"....No Way It's Stainless Steel!!!
It was stored in my garage right along side (2) Old Model MES 40's and (2) of the 2nd Gen MES 40 Replacement Bodies
This is the only one that shows any rust and corrosion
The white corrosion is very similar to the corrosion occurs on galvanized metal......Hmmmmmm!
Could it be "Galvanized Steel or "Aluminized Steel"????
Seems odd, that wherever the foam seemed to ooze out, the steel is corroded
Here's a few pics:
I'm calling Customer Service at Masterbuilt on Monday
This smoker is well beyond the 90 Day Warranty
Thank God I bought the extended warranty at SAMS!!!
Did a batch of Smoked Bacon Dog Treats today
Set it to 250°
Came back and the temp was 300° on the meat probe, hanging on the inside wall
50° off is unacceptable in my book!
Thanks for getting back into the discussion, Todd ... I did decide to go on and solve my problem myself ... took the second New Gen Mess 40 back to Sams Club for a refund ... no hassle at all with the return of Take Two, and no hassle at all with my decision not to try for Strike Three.
Went to my local Academy Sports store, bought a new "Old" MES 40 and - so far (what's the smiley for Knock On Wood??) it seems to be working fine ... temp seems accurate and consistent, my AMNPS works ... the only real down side so far is that I'm now having to rework my estimated cooking times ... it seems that things take longer to cook in a smoker that is set at 225 and cooking at 225 than they do in a smoker that is set at 225 and cooking at 270 ...
I've heard that Academy Sports has a bunch of the old MES 40's
Airflow in this new unit is TERRIBLE!
If you place the AMNPS on the top shelf, the smoke actually moves downward, to the bottom of the smoker, and then out the exhaust....WOW!
The placement of the exhaust on the left side causes lots of turbulence inside the smoker
Trying to harness this turbulence may be a little difficult
I ran it all night trying to configure the AMNPS inside the smoker
More airflow tests today
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They sent me a new one a while back I think I posted about it. I think it is my 5th now. The meat probe is very accurate so far but the internal temp is all over the place. I can not keep a AMNPS working at all but the tube smoker works every time with no problems. The loader jammed and came apart in the process of removing it. Got it back together and with a few mods of bending metal is working OK. If I can ever figure out how to get something other than a 50 degree swing I would be all right with it for what it is. I have turned out some pretty good Q lately but not without staying constantly on top of the thing.
That's a good question!
It not that the AMNPS does not work in the new MES 2nd Gen, it's that it does not burn consistently every time. The trick is to figure out the variables that may cause the inconsistent burning.
There is a larger "Mass of Pellets" in the Tube Smoker, and it seems to perform better than the AMNPS in a low oxygen atmosphere.
I've got over 100 hours of testing my gadgets in the new MES Gen 2, and think there's a pretty simple solution to get my gadgets to work consistently.
Think of the MES in terms of a balloon
Heat the balloon, and there's an increase in air pressure inside the balloon
Even though there was no air added, the pressure inside is increased
A smoker works the same way
A small intake and small exhaust hold in this increased pressure, and do not allow for additional intake air for combustion
Add a fan to the intake, and you get plenty of air for combustion, but the heating element has to work harder to overcome this cooler air
Increase the size of the exhaust and you also get more intake air for combustion, but there's a substantial loss of heat
The intake vent on the MES is right above the heating element. Heating this intake air causes it to expand, and this increased pressure does not allow for very much intake air to enter the smoker. If the intake vent and heating element were separated, I believe the unit would draft much differently
A few more tests today, and I should have an answer.......
Brought my New 2nd Gen MES 40 to work so I can do a little more testing
Opened the door and discovered the plastic frame has several severe cracks
The 2nd pic is where the door hinge attaches to the door
The plastic is literally disintegrating around the hinge!
I'm hoping that the plastic frame is only a cover for the actual frame of the door. If the plastic is an integral part of the door, then the door will quickly fail
I have very little use on this smoker
Other than the 1st time at 275° to burn off all the oils, all were testing my gadgets at 225°
I purchased the extended warranty from SAMS, but not sure if these things are covered
Cracks appeared on top top frame of the door after smoking this weekend @ 225°