Mod to MES 30 ?

Discussion in 'Electric Smokers' started by larrym, Sep 2, 2011.

  1. larrym

    larrym Meat Mopper

    Just a thought.  I was wandering around the hardware store and saw a couple huge size pop rivets.  Was wondering,,,, If I drilled a hole in top of my old MES and then put in a pop rivet with a center hole that was almost big enough to hold 2 wires,, I could go with a remote sensor thermometer which would be way more accurate then I have now.  I dont like the idea of having wires going through the door because if I clamp it too tight, then I could break them.  Anyone else tried to mod an old analog MES in a similar way ?
     
  2. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Many of us drop our probes through the top exhaust vent (that is those with the digital MES).

    That's probably a good idea for an analog MES.

    Bear
     
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  3. larrym

    larrym Meat Mopper

    I do not have a top exhaust vent.  I have no vents in my older model.  The only hole in the entire case is the drip hole in the bottom.
     
  4. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Yup---It's probably is a good idea for you then.

    Where exactly is your heating element?

    If it is toward the right, I would put the hole toward the left.

    If it's toward the left---hole toward the right.

    In middle---put top hole in middle too.

    Just my 2 cents,

    Bear
     
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  5. smokinal

    smokinal Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator OTBS Member ★ Lifetime Premier ★

    You could also use the brass lamp repair kit that a lot of guys use. It's a threaded brass nipple with 2 brass nuts. It's big enough for 3 wires.
     
  6. larrym

    larrym Meat Mopper

    Heating element is centered in the middle Bear.   Lil pic included,, but dont look at my shoulder,, internal temp just hit 148 so not ready yet :)

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  7. smokinal

    smokinal Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator OTBS Member ★ Lifetime Premier ★

    I've never seen an MES like that.

    Frankly, ( to me ) it looks like a better design than the new models.

    Instead of making a smaller element & chip pan off to the side.

    Why not a big chip pan above the element, then a full sized water pan above that, & an exhaust vent right in the middle of the top.
     
  8. So how does it work without a vent or ample leakage around a loose fitting door?  I would have thought you would get too much smoke inside the box without any venting. Just curious....
     
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  9. larrym

    larrym Meat Mopper

    Unless the outside temp is cold and if I remember right,,it worked great with lots of smoke in the winter,, around 40f outside temp.  With summer heat,, I get very little smoke but I can smell it and the wood chips do get too charcoal stage.  I dont know,, this is my first smoker,, trying to make it work.  I suppose I could adjust door clamp so it is looser but still would be leary of trying to run some remote probe wires through there without them getting crimped...  There must be more then me that have this older model,, someone had to make it work or M would have some refit kits.  Nothing for this model that I have found.
     
  10. candurin

    candurin Smoke Blower

    That looks exactly like my Analog MES 30.  But, I have a vent hole in the rear of the unit on the top right hand side, it's strange you don't have that as our units look identical.  I simply thread my probes through that hole and hang the remote off the side handle (the plastic does NOT touch the cabinet).

    I simply loosen the door latch to allow plenty of heat to be retained but vent the smoke.
     
  11. teeznuts

    teeznuts Master of the Pit

    I just bought that same unit for my wife's father to teach him to smoke and so I can smoke when I go to the midwest to visit. I almost like it better than my digital MES.
     
  12. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    It would seem to me, like Al said, it could be better than our digitals, unless there are other things bad about it.

    I would think you could get a top vent like we have, and install it (in the center)---or 2 smaller vents---one right, one left???

    How many watts is that element?

    Bear
     
  13. teeznuts

    teeznuts Master of the Pit

    I can't recall the wattage of the element and I called masterbuilt to confirm but they're now closed for the weekend. The only thing I didn't like about the unit is it only has 3 cooking racks and my MES digital has 4. I was thinking about trying to find a metal cooling rack to sit on the top rack to create a fourth rack since there is plenty of room.
     
  14. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    My MES 40 is a bit tight between the top shelf & the ceiling. 

    And the bottom is a bit close to the heat.

    I think if I'd have designed it, I'd have made it 3 shelves, like yours, but a 4 shelf smoker is easier to sell than a 3 shelf.

    The order I use them in is:

    1st choice----#2

    2nd choice---#1 ( top shelf, if the food I'm doing fits)

    3rd choice----#3

    4th choice----#4  (if ever---So far I have never put food on that one)

    My 2 cents,

    Bear
     
  15. teeznuts

    teeznuts Master of the Pit

    I originally set out to buy him the digital MES30 like I have which is a 4 rack but I saw the analog 3 rack at a good price and figured how often do I actually use all 4 racks. I would like him to have the option of a 4th rack for the occasional massive ABT smoke of for cooking for a crowd but the price was right and he's new to smoking and didn't know the difference. Now if I can only get the wife to smart smoking maybe she'll like it and let me get an MES40.
     
  16. larrym

    larrym Meat Mopper

    :)  guess I go with some type of mod if I want a vent.  I normally have door adjusted tight so no air leakage.  I went by the infommercials.  Its supposed to work as is.  Winter or fall,, if outside temp is low,, the heater control kicks in a lot, and that creates the smoke.  As is right now,, in almost 100f outside temp,,  control is barely used so then no heat to wood chip tray, thus no smoke.  Unless I do a mod to somehow keep the heat control fired up, I dont see what else I can do..  As a side note,, sitting at 10 hours now, this is how it looks, internal temp is just 168 from a couple test spots,, so guess maybe I am in stall ...

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  17. larrym

    larrym Meat Mopper

    OMG,, I feel like an idiot now.  Something I never noticed,, there is a plug on top right corner that can be unscrewed.  I didnt notice it on the inside,, was covered with smoke residue,, started looking around after posting this,, its not big, bout 1/4 inch,, but I can remove plug and run wires through there.  duhhh,,, idjut, well at least now I can get a decent thermometer with sensors.
     
  18. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    LOL---I would have never looked at anything 1/4" either.

    Bear
     
  19. larrym

    larrym Meat Mopper

    here it is,, small but yet I do feel stupid for not seeing it there.

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  20. daveomak

    daveomak Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    I agree with Al.......That baby is a keeper......A 2" or so vent in the top and a 1" of so vent in the middle of the bottom would be my suggestion....(for additional mods if you sere so inclined)

    Somehow I can't leave well enough alone and modify everything......Just being me....After seeing your MES....Masterbuilt should have kept that design on the retail shelves.......
     
     

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