BBQ plans foiled by Civic Duties

masondixon · Mar 2, 2017

Well I was off work today and super excited to try and smoke my first porketta. I had been thinking for a couple weeks about what to stuff with and settled trying to do a fusion "Porketta El Pastor". Started yesterday afternoon prepared the marinade and roast. Just as I finished prepping everything a disturbing thought popped into my head. Tomorrow is the second, I think I have Jury Duty. Yup, I have Jury Duty concurred the keeper of the house schedule, between fits of laughter. Oh well gotta do my civic duty. I'm gonna try to fit it in sometime in the next day or two, or it might just cooked in the oven. :mad:

atomicsmoke · Mar 2, 2017

I don't know how the justice system works south of the border, but here, if you have a valid reason you can be excused from jury duty. When I got called people were coming with ludicrous excuses such as: work obligations, trip booked 9 months before, sickness situation in the family. They managed to get out. If that worked I am pretty sure a serious situation like your porchetta will be understood by the judge.

Edit: that was sarcasm.

SmokinAl · Mar 2, 2017

Yea they pretty much let you go home for just about any excuse.

Al

johnmeyer · Mar 2, 2017

Foiled by civic duties? I am usually foiled by aluminum.

In January, I got called up to sit on a murder case. It was going to be a month. They brought in 240 people in order to get 14 (12, plus 2 alternates). Four full days just to pick a jury. I was lucky and was one of the first 12 put in the box. I wore a three-piece suit every day. Everyone else was in casual clothes. I didn't want to make any excuses, but I also really didn't want to kill a whole month (that was the expected duration). As I expected, the defense kept staring at my suit. On the third day of jury questioning, he used a peremptory challenge to toss me out.

As a result, I was able to go back to my smoking and aluminum foil.

atomicsmoke · Mar 2, 2017

johnmeyer said:
Foiled by civic duties? I am usually foiled by aluminum.

In January, I got called up to sit on a murder case. It was going to be a month. They brought in 240 people in order to get 14 (12, plus 2 alternates). Four full days just to pick a jury. I was lucky and was one of the first 12 put in the box. I wore a three-piece suit every day. Everyone else was in casual clothes. I didn't want to make any excuses, but I also really didn't want to kill a whole month (that was the expected duration). As I expected, the defense kept staring at my suit. On the third day of jury questioning, he used a peremptory challenge to toss me out.

As a result, I was able to go back to my smoking and aluminum foil.

I thought I heard all the tricks in the book, but never heard this. I will use it if I get called again. Thank you.

dukeburger · Mar 2, 2017

johnmeyer said:
Foiled by civic duties? I am usually foiled by aluminum.

In January, I got called up to sit on a murder case. It was going to be a month. They brought in 240 people in order to get 14 (12, plus 2 alternates). Four full days just to pick a jury. I was lucky and was one of the first 12 put in the box. I wore a three-piece suit every day. Everyone else was in casual clothes. I didn't want to make any excuses, but I also really didn't want to kill a whole month (that was the expected duration). As I expected, the defense kept staring at my suit. On the third day of jury questioning, he used a peremptory challenge to toss me out.

As a result, I was able to go back to my smoking and aluminum foil.

That's the best thing I've heard all week

johnmeyer · Mar 2, 2017

The defense definitely does not want a guy who looks like a "hard-ass" sitting on a jury.

There's an old book I had to read in high school German almost fifty years ago called "Kleider Machen Leute" ("Clothes Make the Person"): a tailor dresses up in the suit of clothes he has made for the prince, and visits a nearby town where no one knows him. He gets treated like a prince.

Even these days, you can definitely alter how strangers view you, just by putting on the right clothes.

gr0uch0 · Mar 2, 2017

johnmeyer said:
The defense definitely does not want a guy who looks like a "hard-ass" sitting on a jury.

There's an old book I had to read in high school German almost fifty years ago called "Kleider Machen Leute" ("Clothes Make the Person"): a tailor dresses up in the suit of clothes he has made for the prince, and visits a nearby town where no one knows him. He gets treated like a prince.

Even these days, you can definitely alter how strangers view you, just by putting on the right clothes.

Or take a copy of "The Runaway Jury" (or any John Grisham novel for that matter, but this one REALLY will do the trick) into the courtroom as the attorneys are culling out the pool, and have it prominently displayed in front of you. You'll be on your way in no time flat....

atomicsmoke · Mar 2, 2017

I wonder if they would boot me if I told them I watch the show Bull.

gr0uch0 · Mar 2, 2017

gr0uch0 said:
Or take a copy of "The Runaway Jury" (or any John Grisham novel for that matter, but this one REALLY will do the trick) into the courtroom as the attorneys are culling out the pool, and have it prominently displayed in front of you. You'll be on your way in no time flat....

This shirt works wonders as well: much less than a Hickey Freeman 3-piece....

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gr0uch0
Mar 2, 2017

HalfSmoked · Mar 2, 2017

Just tell them your prejudice and believe all criminals are guilty until proven innocent. Also say you support the police in all their doings.

Surly you will not serve.

Warren

browneyesvictim · Mar 2, 2017

I never really understood jury selection... Always seemed to me the "hand picking" of jurors was like stacking the deck to begin with and not in the spirit of fair justice. But then again... when I look around and see what morals, ethics, and respect people and society have taken to as" normal" today, it makes me glad there is such a thing.

Anyway... good luck on the porketta any way you do it! Heck, even in a crockpot should be great!

bbqbrett · Mar 2, 2017

Browneyesvictim said:
I never really understood jury selection... Always seemed to me the "hand picking" of jurors was like stacking the deck to begin with and not in the spirit of fair justice. But then again... when I look around and see what morals, ethics, and respect people and society have taken to as" normal" today, it makes me glad there is such a thing.

Anyway... good luck on the porketta any way you do it! Heck, even in a crockpot should be great!

I served on a jury once and it was an interesting process to go through. Not really stacking the deck one way or the other though as both the prosecution and defense get to have their say as to who serves on the jury. They use it more as a tool to weed out people they think will be biased in one way or another. Luckily the trial I was at only lasted one day! No BBQ interference!

smokesontuesday · Mar 2, 2017

Since I work at 911 I'm pretty much jury exempt. There's a better than 50% chance I've been directly involved in whatever local case they're trying so I just got booted right away.

masondixon · Mar 2, 2017

Well after 10 hours I was finally dismissed. The defense attorney did not like the cut of my jib. I need some pork therapy asap

tardissmoker · Mar 2, 2017

I was called for a murder trial that was expected to last 6 months. Before the attorneys got involved the judge asked, "Anyone know the accused?". I said, "I don't know him personally but my son knows him. He's in his class at school and I hear about him all the time.". "You're excused", said the judge.

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