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post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 

Hi guys. I'm a retired Air Force guy, 20 years. Recently bought another charbroil smoker. I seen a bunch of posts and youtube videos recommending to use Permatec's Red RTV Sealer. I used it and did an initial burn this weekend and it smelled so much like chemicals I stuck with my older grill. I emailed Permatec and they said they dont recommend using their product inside of grills. See link and pics. I need your help. Am I supposed to do more burns or use something on it to get the chemical smell out before I start cooking on it?  Thanks.

 

Dave in Tarpon Springs Florida.

 

 

 

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post #2 of 17

Dave, evening....  keep heating the smoker until the smell is gone....  may take 4-5 hours or so....    then see what happens....   

 

Dave

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post #5 of 17

Welcome aboard, Dave!  This is the best place I know for sharing ideas on smoking, grilling, curing, etc.  There are plenty of friendly, knowledgeable folks who really enjoy helping one another.  Looking forward to your input here, and just ask when you need anything...someone here will surely have the answer.

 

Red

post #6 of 17
Thread Starter 
Thanks everyone. I already received the one response which is to keep burning till the smell goes away. Will the orange eventually turn black and that's when the smell should go away? I was thinking of maybe using a whole bag of charcoal to keep it going for 4-5 hours in hopes that will burn the smell out.
post #7 of 17

4-5 hours, all the solvents should go away, and running the smoker at 50-100 degrees higher than you expect to cook with, should volatilize stuff and put your smoker in the OK to smoke food category....   You will have to be the final judge of course...    Don't know about the color though.....  

 

Dave

post #8 of 17
Thread Starter 
Thanks Dave. When I ran it saturday for the first time, temps were 350 near the fire box and about 325 near the smoke stack but only lasted for 3 hours and then started to drop. I guess I'll burn it maybe with a full bag and full like you said to get it hot. Would you recommend me putting charcoal in the cooking chamber side as well as the firebox to do this chemical burn out or just stay using the charcoal at high temps in the firebox? Also, since i didnt do the vegetable or peanut oil spray on the entire inside first, could it be the chemical smell is actually coming from the newness of the grill vs the red rtv?
post #9 of 17

I used the red on mine when I did the refurb and never noticed any smell after the first fire to test it.  Because I had just repainted mine, I shot some of the left over high temp paint on the red silicone so it wouldn't be so obvious when I raised the lid
 

post #10 of 17

New steel has an oil on it from the forming process....    Wipe the loose stuff off the smoker and then spray the smoker with oil, inside and out if you want....  heat to 400 for a couple hours or so and that should be good....  If you can get the temp up without putting fuel in the cook chamber, that should be good.....  throw in some splits of wood to get the temps up....  splits burn hot when they flame......     any kind of untreated wood is good at this point...  

 

 

 

Dave

post #11 of 17
Thread Starter 

Ok. I emailed Permatec and here's the responses. Weird that everybody is using it yet the company that makes it says not to.  I'm going with what you guys say and just do another high temp burn for 4-5 hours in hopes to burn off that smell.

 

Me:  Is the red rtv safe to use in bbq grills?

 

We do not recommend that our product be used on anything that will come in contact with food as they are not rated for this.

 

Thank you,

 

Suzanne C Liseo

Technical Services Rep.

ITW Permatex

 

Hmm. Ok.  Ive seen a bunch of youtube videos where folks have stated they use it.  I did one burn and it still smells like chemicals so based on your feedback, that makes sense. I guess  I'll have to scrap it off.  Thanks for the quick response.

So do you have a recommended solution that I can use to get this off of my grill so I can put the food save red rtv on it? I basicially sealed all the screws and any area I saw day light coming through. See attached.

 

 

Dave,

 

You may need to go purchase our Silicone Dissolver item# 80652. And then clean the grill very well with our spray nine product and rinse well.

 

Thank you,

 

Suzanne C Liseo

Technical Services Rep.

ITW Permatex

post #12 of 17

Standard "CYA" (cover your butt) advice from them to avoid any liability from misuse of their product I suppose. blah.gifblah.gifblah.gif The way it is used in smokers it will never come in direct contact with food and I'm not going to scrape it off mine.  I'm done with having babies, so side effects like low sperm count or mutant sperm don't bother me none. 46.gif Hair loss is already in advanced stages, so if anything, Permatex might help some of 'em stick around a bit longerbiggrin.gif
 

I suppose JB Weld doesn't recommend their product as a cavity filling either?PDT_Armataz_01_23.gifbiggrin.gif

post #13 of 17

I suppose JB Weld doesn't recommend their product as a cavity filling either?

 

Wish I had seen that a few years ago........    LOL..........

post #14 of 17
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Originally Posted by DaveOmak View Post

I suppose JB Weld doesn't recommend their product as a cavity filling either?

 

Wish I had seen that a few years ago........    LOL..........


What?!?!?!?  you didn't know?!?!?!  Dremel and JB Weld, a cavity sufferers match made in heaven biggrin.gif  We don't need no steenking dentists moon.gifbiggrin.gif

post #15 of 17
Thread Starter 

I guess you're right. I plan to do a long burn with some cheap instant light briquettes and a decent size piece of oak to get it real hot/smokey for 4-5 hours and see if that burns out the smell. My concern is that with the smell if it would end up smelling/tasting like that in the meat. I'll see first with the burn today and check it tomorrow morning to see if the chemical smell is gone. 

post #16 of 17
Thread Starter 

I did a long burn last sunday. Got the grill up to 550 at times. The red is now black. Still has some odor but not as bad. I plan to try and cook some meat on it today as a test and see how it tastes and if I fall out sick. :)  I'll take pics and show the grill later.  I got another response from permatec saying they have the rtv remover. man they never seem to stop.

post #17 of 17
Thread Starter 

I smoked a whole chicken. The grill was sealed very good but the meat and grill still smells like the chemicals of the red permatex sealer I used. Is this normal? Maybe I put too much sealant inside the grill sealing every screw and place where there is a connection.  Is there some other type of sealer I should use where being very liberal in convering is safe and doesnt smell?

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