Over the long term. No muss. No fuss. No mods. No B.S.

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upinflames

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Mar 15, 2008
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Guys I'm in the market for a good quality smoker that will last us over the long haul. What's a great quality unit that doesn't need any mods and is ready to go right out of the box. My focus is ribs and butts.

TIA, UIF.
 
Having purchased and subsequently given away a Char Griller Trio due to the muss and fuss, I can identify with your tone.

I've rambled on below, but the 3 things you can focus on, essentially, are cabinet size, chip tray and refilling of  chips/water.

Here's the reality;  Every smoker under $1k is a cheap sheet metal cabinet.  If you look into electric, you'll find some double-walled stuff, if you stick with propane you'll find only the Smoke Hollow Deluxe (which I had considered buying).  Bottom line, among propane models, they're all just as susceptible to heat loss and corrosion as one another. (save the Deluxe, which conceivably ~should~ be a bit more efficient)

Among all the single-walled or lone double-walled propane smokers, which are reported to not leak smoke?

None.

What is the biggest mod you see reported?  Sealing the unit to confine the smoke to escaping only through a single vent.  What purpose does this serve?  Not sure, really.  You're applying heat and air to a cabinet.... there's positive air pressure that is going to escape wherever it can.  If you choke it down to the top vent only, it'll try coming out the bottom vent.  What's next?  Close the bottom vents, too.  Personally, I'm content to let it go.  Electrics contain/control the air flow better.  Propane does what it does.

What's the next biggest mod?  Wood trays.  Now, this is something you can avoid up front.  There are models that provide a sufficient chip tray so as to not ignite them.

Another variable that's often mentioned but rarely emphasized is; how do you get water or wood in the unit during the smoke?  Some cabinets are single-door, some are double-door.  If you look carefully (critically) you'll see where the manufacturers are trying to draw people in with drawers and doors, but you'll also find that virtually all of them have complaints about filling/re-filling.

The other thing you're looking for is size.  You want to cook ribs, make sure it's wide enough.  Butts can be done in virtually every unit out there, even those no bigger than a breadbox.  Among those wide enough for ribs, there can be some seriously over-sized units.  Go to Basspro, Gander Mountain and Wally World to touch and feel a few.  You may not want a refrigerator sized cabinet in your garage or out on your deck.

I've recently purchased a Smoke Vault 24 and have to say it's a pretty decent little unit.  Just did a couple butts yesterday on the back deck @ 23 degrees outside.  Set the dial to Medium, refilled the water twice and the chip tray about 4 times....  8 hours later, we're eating.  Made 3 slabs of ribs a couple weeks ago and had room for 3 more slabs.  It was about as automatic as could be.  (Real nice coming from charcoal smoking, especially on the garbage trio).  I'm not going to be a fan-boy over this unit, though.  It's a cheap cabinet like all the others.  Has a great size, though.  You may want to narrow your search to its dimensions.  Water can be poured in the pan easily.  An alternate chip tray is not required.  To add chips, I grab the chip tray with tongs, pull it out a bit, throw some chips in, push the tray back in, close the door.  Not bad, not a struggle.  Does Camp Chef have the only good chip tray?  I wouldn't think so.  Are some easier to load?  Maybe.  Are some worse?  Sounds like it from the reviews.
 
I love my Smoke Vault! Easy to use....easy to put together! Wide enough for a rack of ribs! Easy to clean. I dont want another style. Mine is the 24"

Kat
 
Are you set on which heating type of smoker you would like to purchase? I see this is posted in propane smokers, but is that the final choice on heating type?

There are many to choose from; gas, electric, wood burning, charcoal, pellet, etc. Sometimes location, cooking method preference, amount of food to prepare at once, etc can all play into the heating type of smoker. That should be one of your first considerations, and if you have already narrowed it down to propane then my post is really irrelevant then I suppose.

Did you have a price range you were looking to stay within, may help some of the more experienced gasser folks on here weigh in a bit?

I don't believe every smoker under $1k is a cheap sheet metal cabinet, that's simply not true unless you maybe apply it to propane smokers only. In the event that is true (which is terrible), then I suppose if you want a smoker to match your thread title you may want to consider looking at a different type of smoker then propane. In my experience the electrics have proven to work well, as long as you stay away from a few troubled yet popular brands.
 
Being in a cold weather state I will always have propane smokers with separate doors/drawers to access the wood and water pans. I just love the convenience and ease of turning on and heating up quickly, along with not having to open the cooking chamber everytime to add wood/water.

That said, I'll always believe that wood or charcoal burning smokers are the real purist way of doing it, and someday when I'm not so busy, I'll take it on.
 
Guys I'm in the market for a good quality smoker that will last us over the long haul. What's a great quality unit that doesn't need any mods and is ready to go right out of the box. My focus is ribs and butts.

TIA, UIF.
Sounds like your in the market for a Cookshack electric. I have 2, a model 08 and a 09. One is 10 years old, and the other is 7. The both have been used frequently, and without fail, in temps ranging from sub zero to 100+. Unpack it, install the shelves, plug it in, and your good to go for a very long time.

From all that I have read the company has superb customer service. Personally, I can't vouch for that as I've never had a need to contact them. Nothing has ever gone wrong.
 
Are you set on propane? What size are you looking for? I would strongly suggest looking at Lang but I might be a little prejudiced in that area. There are a lot of good smokers out there. Backwoods, stumps, lang, traeger, etc... Do you have any fuel preference? 

Doug
 
Are you set on propane? What size are you looking for? I would strongly suggest looking at Lang but I might be a little prejudiced in that area. There are a lot of good smokers out there. Backwoods, stumps, lang, traeger, etc... Do you have any fuel preference? 

Doug
Doug, a stick burner would be fun but a lot of work for small single cooks . The convenience of plug and play (electric) or fire it up and run (gasser) is what I'm looking for.

Came close to buying a Meadow Creek a few times but never pulled the trigger on one.
 
I love my Smoke Vault! Easy to use....easy to put together! Wide enough for a rack of ribs! Easy to clean. I dont want another style. Mine is the 24"

Kat
KathrynN, may I ask how long you been using your SV and if you use it during the winter. 20 degrees and lower ?

Thanks, UIF.
 
I love my Smoke Vault! Easy to use....easy to put together! Wide enough for a rack of ribs! Easy to clean. I dont want another style. Mine is the 24"

Kat
KathrynN, may I ask how long you been using your SV and if you use it during the winter. 20 degrees and lower ?

Thanks, UIF.
I have used this for a year.....and our Temps here in Alabama this winter have been in the low 30's when I have used it....but not lower than that.  Wind didn't matter with it either.  I use it all year long.

Hope that helps!

Kat
 
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