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I'm sure that this has been asked ad nauseum on these forums but my propane smoker is coming tomorrow and I plan on starting with some jerky. I have 3 lbs of brisket sliced 1/4" thick with the grain that I tenderized with a needle tenderizer and seasoned using Backwoods Mesquite Jerky Kit. At what temperature and how long should I smoke? I'm planning on using a combination of hickory chunks and Jack Daniels oak barrel chips to smoke. Should I start with the smoke or wait an hour or so before adding it? Any other tips that you guys can toss in there will be appreciated too. Thanks.
 
I'm sure that this has been asked ad nauseum on these forums but my propane smoker is coming tomorrow and I plan on starting with some jerky. I have 3 lbs of brisket sliced 1/4" thick with the grain that I tenderized with a needle tenderizer and seasoned using Backwoods Mesquite Jerky Kit. At what temperature and how long should I smoke? I'm planning on using a combination of hickory chunks and Jack Daniels oak barrel chips to smoke. Should I start with the smoke or wait an hour or so before adding it? Any other tips that you guys can toss in there will be appreciated too. Thanks.
Interesting...never tried brisket for jerky, as it's a tough cut requiring low & slow to get tender, but then, jerky is supposed to have some chew to it, so, I'm interested in hearing about your results. Come to think of it, brisket flat is lean muscle, so that in itself makes it a good candidate for jerky. Sliced with the grain will be a very chewy texture, but puncture-0tenderizing may offset that a bit.

Assuming the kit you have contains a cure agent (cure #1) in a separate packet from the spices, this allows for low temp smoking and drying. 1/4" thick is average for me...may take most of the day to dry, depending on how the smoker is loaded and ventilation rate.

For faster drying, use water in the pan until the jerky has taken on a very dark mahogany color and has shrunk quite a bit, indicating it's mostly dried. The extra water vapor in the smoke chamber will keep the surface fibers of the meat loose and porous, allowing interior moisture to evaporate more quickly. Once the bulk of the moisture is gone from the meat, then, remove the water from the pan, reducing the chamber humidity, and this will finish drying the meat from the outside in. May sound backwards to use elevated humidity during meat dry, but the process is just the opposite of what you would think.

Smoke first before drying...if it starts to dry, it won't take on smoke. OK, 1/4" thick, with hickory and JD/Oak, about 20-25 minutes of smoke, then pull the smoke wood, or it could get pretty intense. Jerky slices have a lot of surface area, so they don't take long to get a good amount of smoke flavor. Temp during the smoke can run from cold (60* up to 100* or more), or you can smoke a bit higher if your smoker won't generate smoke at that low of temps. The higher the chamber temp, the less time for smoke reaction, so you're kind of forcing it onto the meat at that point, as the meat's surface begins drying more quickly when higher temps are used. With colder temps you can smoke longer, as the meat won't readily take on smoke when temps are too cold, but I generally smoke around 100-120* chamber temp.

For drying, I like to bump the chamber temps up from the smoke temp over a few hours up to around 160*, sometimes a bit less. Once you're up to target temp, just let it ride for a few more hours, then start checking texture and color, shrinkage, etc. When a few sample pieces are leathery in texture, and will bend but not break when folded, it's getting close. If they break in half when folded, they're a bit brittle...it's done...ready to lay out on a sheet pan and cool to room temp and finish air drying...bag 'em up and enjoy whatever won't fit in the first bag...just kidding...LOL!!!

Now, that's for cured jerky meats...un-cured is a whole nuther animal altogether.

Eric
 
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Thanks for all of the info.  I am seasoning the new smoker right now and getting ready to start.  I have a real problem right now though and that is that I can't seem to get the temp to stay below about 210-210.  Anything that I can do to help lower the temp? I opened the door and released some heat to bring it down and then turned the burner all the way to Low, but that didn't help a whole lot.  Worried that I am going to end up with leather instead of jerky.
 
Also, I have read in these forums about people putting play sand in the water bowl to keep the temps down.  How does that work? Just a thought here but would a couple of foil wrapped bricks accomplish the same thing?
 
So I finished my very first batch of jerky after it being in the smoker for 8 hours.  Very tasty if I do say so myself.  Somewhat dry because I couldn't get the temp down low enough even after closing both dampers one either side of the burner.  Ended up at 200 before I caught it.  Lowest temp I could get was about 175 and the average was 188.  Put smoke to it for two hours then pulled the smoke.  When I did that the box temp skyrocketed and I found myself opening the door to release some heat. Even after emptying the wood from the box and putting it back in, the temp continued to be high.  CAn I put anything in the wood box (other than wood) to help regulate the temp?
 
the reason you have a high temp problem is the regulater on the smoker. if you do a search for a needle valve mod. on this forum you should be able to find a how to on how to fix this problem.
 
Interesting...never tried brisket for jerky, as it's a tough cut requiring low & slow to get tender, but then, jerky is supposed to have some chew to it, so, I'm interested in hearing about your results. Come to think of it, brisket flat is lean muscle, so that in itself makes it a good candidate for jerky. Sliced with the grain will be a very chewy texture, but puncture-0tenderizing may offset that a bit.

Assuming the kit you have contains a cure agent (cure #1) in a separate packet from the spices, this allows for low temp smoking and drying. 1/4" thick is average for me...may take most of the day to dry, depending on how the smoker is loaded and ventilation rate.

For faster drying, use water in the pan until the jerky has taken on a very dark mahogany color and has shrunk quite a bit, indicating it's mostly dried. The extra water vapor in the smoke chamber will keep the surface fibers of the meat loose and porous, allowing interior moisture to evaporate more quickly. Once the bulk of the moisture is gone from the meat, then, remove the water from the pan, reducing the chamber humidity, and this will finish drying the meat from the outside in. May sound backwards to use elevated humidity during meat dry, but the process is just the opposite of what you would think.

Smoke first before drying...if it starts to dry, it won't take on smoke. OK, 1/4" thick, with hickory and JD/Oak, about 20-25 minutes of smoke, then pull the smoke wood, or it could get pretty intense. Jerky slices have a lot of surface area, so they don't take long to get a good amount of smoke flavor. Temp during the smoke can run from cold (60* up to 100* or more), or you can smoke a bit higher if your smoker won't generate smoke at that low of temps. The higher the chamber temp, the less time for smoke reaction, so you're kind of forcing it onto the meat at that point, as the meat's surface begins drying more quickly when higher temps are used. With colder temps you can smoke longer, as the meat won't readily take on smoke when temps are too cold, but I generally smoke around 100-120* chamber temp.

For drying, I like to bump the chamber temps up from the smoke temp over a few hours up to around 160*, sometimes a bit less. Once you're up to target temp, just let it ride for a few more hours, then start checking texture and color, shrinkage, etc. When a few sample pieces are leathery in texture, and will bend but not break when folded, it's getting close. If they break in half when folded, they're a bit brittle...it's done...ready to lay out on a sheet pan and cool to room temp and finish air drying...bag 'em up and enjoy whatever won't fit in the first bag...just kidding...LOL!!!

Now, that's for cured jerky meats...un-cured is a whole nuther animal altogether.

Eric
Eric,

Some great info here! I would like to say thanks for you taking the time to write this out for us newbies to learn from. I am so thankful that I came across this forum, you guys will be

saving me (and I am sure many others) a ton of time and costly mistakes. Sure it's still a learning curve but that is what makes it fun, just glad we don't have to re-invent the proverbial wheel.

Thanks again to you and everyone here that shares their knowledge with us rookies,

Chris
 
Also, I have read in these forums about people putting play sand in the water bowl to keep the temps down.  How does that work? Just a thought here but would a couple of foil wrapped bricks accomplish the same thing?
Sand or pea-gravel in the water (pan) act as a thermal mass to help the smoke chamber temps run more stable. It won't make the smoker run any cooler...bricks would do the same thing.

BTW, if you have lower intakes, opening them up all the way will cause a higher draft through the smoke chamber resulting in lower humidity and lower temperature.

Eric
 
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Interesting...never tried brisket for jerky, as it's a tough cut requiring low & slow to get tender, but then, jerky is supposed to have some chew to it, so, I'm interested in hearing about your results. Come to think of it, brisket flat is lean muscle, so that in itself makes it a good candidate for jerky. Sliced with the grain will be a very chewy texture, but puncture-0tenderizing may offset that a bit.

Assuming the kit you have contains a cure agent (cure #1) in a separate packet from the spices, this allows for low temp smoking and drying. 1/4" thick is average for me...may take most of the day to dry, depending on how the smoker is loaded and ventilation rate.

For faster drying, use water in the pan until the jerky has taken on a very dark mahogany color and has shrunk quite a bit, indicating it's mostly dried. The extra water vapor in the smoke chamber will keep the surface fibers of the meat loose and porous, allowing interior moisture to evaporate more quickly. Once the bulk of the moisture is gone from the meat, then, remove the water from the pan, reducing the chamber humidity, and this will finish drying the meat from the outside in. May sound backwards to use elevated humidity during meat dry, but the process is just the opposite of what you would think.

Smoke first before drying...if it starts to dry, it won't take on smoke. OK, 1/4" thick, with hickory and JD/Oak, about 20-25 minutes of smoke, then pull the smoke wood, or it could get pretty intense. Jerky slices have a lot of surface area, so they don't take long to get a good amount of smoke flavor. Temp during the smoke can run from cold (60* up to 100* or more), or you can smoke a bit higher if your smoker won't generate smoke at that low of temps. The higher the chamber temp, the less time for smoke reaction, so you're kind of forcing it onto the meat at that point, as the meat's surface begins drying more quickly when higher temps are used. With colder temps you can smoke longer, as the meat won't readily take on smoke when temps are too cold, but I generally smoke around 100-120* chamber temp.

For drying, I like to bump the chamber temps up from the smoke temp over a few hours up to around 160*, sometimes a bit less. Once you're up to target temp, just let it ride for a few more hours, then start checking texture and color, shrinkage, etc. When a few sample pieces are leathery in texture, and will bend but not break when folded, it's getting close. If they break in half when folded, they're a bit brittle...it's done...ready to lay out on a sheet pan and cool to room temp and finish air drying...bag 'em up and enjoy whatever won't fit in the first bag...just kidding...LOL!!!

Now, that's for cured jerky meats...un-cured is a whole nuther animal altogether.

Eric
As a real newbie looking to make my first jerky this was helpful.  I wish there was a post with step by step instructions and definitions of words like "cured" that resided on the top of this jerky forum.  That would be most helpful.  For now I'll just keep reading individual posts and assembling their wisdom.  This post was most helpful so far. 

Btw, I have made some terrific somked pork, chicken, turkey, beef etc from advice here!!!!   Now on to jerky!
 
I had the same temp problems, I got an adjustable regulator , now high on the smoker is 200 and low is 125....( With the regulator all the way down)
If I turn the adjustable reg. up I can get my higher temps back
 
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