2 chickens and 25 lbs of pork butt, Q view to follow

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thsmormonsmokes

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Dec 11, 2011
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I'm cooking for a church youth group activity taking place this coming Wednesday.  They requested pulled pork, so who am I to refuse?  I'm going to smoke them tonight, pull them tomorrow, then refrigerate until Wed.  I'll re-heat by putting the bags in boiling water, then hit them with finishing sauce.  I've got 3 butts rubbed with Jeff's rub ready to go in later tonight for another overnight smoke.  I'm going to use cherry wood on this go around because I've got a lot of it right now and I've been using apple a lot lately.  Change of gears.

Since I'll have the smoker running, I figured I might as well try something I haven't done before.  I've got two chickens, each cut in half sitting in JimmyJ's brine recipe right now.  Since it's his recipe, I'll let him be the one to post it here if he wants to make it public.  But it smells GOOD.  I did use fresh thyme instead of dry, and I added in about 2T of fresh sage because it sounded like a good idea.  My herb garden isn't going to last much longer now that it's cooling off, so I figured I'd use it while I can.  The chickens will brine for about 24 hours.  I'm very much looking forward to that.

So the grand total will be 3 butts, 25 lbs total and 4 chicken halves in the smoker.  This is my biggest cook I've tackled yet.

I've got the necks, backbones and some giblets I saved.  Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I can do with those?  Has anyone ever used their smoker to boil them down for smokey gravy?  I think I'm gonna give that a try, unless someone else has a killer idea.

Anyway, I didn't take any pictures as I was doing prep work because my hands were constantly covered in pork or chicken juices and I didn't have the time to wash them to snap a pic or two.  I will post pics as the cook progresses.

But since I don't have any Q view pics yet, for now here's a picture of Vigo the Carpathian.


Q view to follow later tonight!
 
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I'm in...I'll be waiting for the updates!!!
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This is what I use to make Chicken gravy,

I put in red what I change for the gravy.

Its great !!!!!

ChefJimmy’s Au Jus (Gravy)

1- Lg Onion,

4-5 Carrots,

3-4 Ribs Celery

3-4 Peeled Cloves of Garlic

Toss them in a pan under the Beef,(Chicken) and let the whole deal Smoke for one hour,

THEN add 4-6 Cups Beef (chicken)  Broth,

2 Tbs Tomato Paste,( I don't add this to mine)

1/2tsp Dry Thyme (4-5 sprigs Fresh)

1-2 ea Bayleaf

Finish the Smoking process to the IT you want.

While the Roast is resting, dump the pan juices veggies and all into a 2-3Qt Sauce pot and add 1Cup Red Wine, something you like to drink, and bring the Jus to a boil, lower the heat and simmer 20-30 minutes. Strain out the veggies and let the Jus rest a minute or so for the Fat to rise. Skim off the bulk of the fat then using strips of paper towel laid on top of the Jus then quickly removed, take off the last little bit of fat.

The purpose of Smoking the Vegetable for 1 hour before adding the Broth and Herbs is...The Smoked vegetables Roast in the Dry heat concentrating their Flavors and Sweetness giving the finished Jus a Richer, Deeper, Full Flavor.

Serve the sliced Beef Au Jus or thicken the Jus to make Gravy.
 
Man, that sounds good. A bit more involved than I've got time for at this point though. I'll keep it on radar for a future project.

The smoker is coming up to temp. I'm using my own take on MM smoking. I pour my unlit coals in the basket around a hollowed out coffee can.


Then I use the side burner of the gas grill to light a chimney of charcoal and a big lump of my smoke wood (tonight it's cherry).


Once they're going good, I pour it into the hollowed out can, and pull the can out. The fire takes care of the rest from there.

So now it's coming up to temp. I actually remembered a water pan this time and so far that appears to be making a big difference in my temps across the grates.

Once I'm to temp and rolling nice TBS, the butts will go on.

Stay tuned!!
 
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Mormon, it seems you have it well in hand, the Butts will be good anyway you fix 'em , but for Grins and Giggles , allow for time to do  JJ's Sauce , you'll like it
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I'm in...    
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 have fun and......
 
Meaning JJ's finishing sauce? If so, I absolutely agree. I tried that last week for the first time and I'm sold. I'll definitely be using it.

The smoker came up to temp like a dream and was holding steady at about 225 across the grill. On go the butts.


A little TBS rolling.


And the TBS from a back-lit view.


Now it's hurry up and wait. Another sleepless night ahead!
 
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Dallas, if you want to do the Gravy Jrod suggested, there is no need to jump through the hoops if you don't have time. Toss all the Veg and assorted Chicken innards, Except Liver makes a murky gravy, you can saute it , mince it and add later if desired. Then smoke it for 2 hours and finish as described leaving out the Wine, assuming you don't partake of the Vine...JJ
 
So, a few lessons learned over the night.  I've been having a miserable time controlling my temps across the grate.  Last night I included a really big water pan, resting on my tuning plates right up against my SFB baffle.  Problem: SOLVED.  With extreme prejudice.  From the time I dropped the coals in, the temps have never been more than about 8 degrees different, and they're often within 1 or 2.  I'm very happy about that.



So things are progressing nicely.  I just opened the chamber up to probe them after about 7.5 hours.  IT is sitting at 160.  I can live with that.







Another view:






My upper rack is leaving an imprint on the butt to the right again.  But I might need the rack to fit the birds on later, so I didn't take it off.  And I'm just going to pull the pork, so nobody is ever going to know any different.



Question: *EDIT* upon further inspection, Ive got plenty of grate space. So the chicken above pork is a non-issue. Thanks for the feedback.  



Chickens are going in at around noon.  I figure 3-4 hours on the chickens should do the job quite nicely, and we'll be eating around 5:30.



More to come, so stay tuned!!



-Dallas-
 
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Those butts are looking Awesome!!!

I wouldn't want raw chicken juices dripping all over butts that look that good and yes you are risking cross contamination. Can you move the butts to the upper rack? If not maybe make a foil tent over them so the chicken juice drips on the foil and runs off the sides.
 
Man that's a beautiful sight. I've calibrated the square thermos and they're about 4 degrees low. So it's running dead nuts perfect. It's takene almost a year, but I think I've got this puppy figured out. And I'm right where I want to be on IT.

I only wish I could take a picture of how it smells.

Can't wait to put the chicken on.

More to follow.

-D-
 
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Time for the chicken!  Out of the brine (I brined for about 26 hours) and into the smoke.

Here's what the pork looked like when I opened it up.  Check out the pullback on the far right.  It looks like the bone is getting ready to jump out.  IT is at 183, so it's getting close.


Re-arranged things to avoid raw chicken juices from dripping on the pork.  The chicken may well finish before the pork, so it probably would have been a non-issue, but why not go ahead and make it as safe as possible.  This way we'll only have pork on pork, and a tiny bit of pork on chicken action.  Man that sounds dirty.  Anyway, the only thing that will drip on the chicken will be rendered pig fat so we're looking good.


Had to freshen up the fire box with some new fire and smoke.  Got her rolling just how I like to see it.  


More to come!  I'm having a blast.

-D-
 
Had to open the hood and check a few ITs manually.  My wireless therm is on the fritz.  I've hit a bit of a stall on my pork with my IT holding around 185 for longer than I expected, but I think I'm in the home stretch.  And I'm gonna take the temps up a bit higher to force the issue.  250 to finish, since this smoke has been in the 220 range the whole time so far.

The chicken has been on for about 1.5 hours now.  It smells A M A Z I N G.  I'm guesstimating another 1.5 hours on the chicken.  I may pull it and put it in the grill at really high temps for about 15 minutes or so to try to crisp up the skin a little.  Or we might just eat.  I'm getting pretty hungry.


Next up:  MONEY SHOTS!
 
So the chicken was great. Perfect flavor. That brine is money. The white meat was a little tougher, maybe a tad dry. That might be because I'm used to Costco rotisserie birds and who knows what they inject those with. Anyway, it was outstanding.


One of the pork butts is taking FOREVER. It is still at IT of 196. Goin on 20 hours. I have no clue why it's taking this long. The others finished several hours ago. I've got it in the oven at 350 to finish it now.

I've pulled the other two and they're in the fridge.


This shot doesn't do the color justice. This makes it look pretty grey, but it's got loads of pink hues to it. Even though that doesn't change taste, I really love the smoke ring look.


I may or may not have snitched a lot while I pulled. Gotta make sure it isn't poisoned before the kids try it, right?

Check out the pullback on the bone. I picked it up by the bone and it fell right out.


Pulled:

OK. That's two big smokes in as many weeks. I've got it out of my system for now. That was a lot of work. I'll get to enjoy the rest of the fruits of my labors on Wed.

Thanks again for looking. I'm going to bed soon.
 
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That all looks really Awesome!!!

I'm glad you moved the butts and got the chicken below them.

I bet that other butt is done, I've had them stall around 190* forever before and I would probe and they felt tender as butter and pulled easy and were juicy as could be, just like they hit 205*.
 
Looks great! Just a reminder...It is best to put a dish towel in the bottom of the pot you are going to reheat the bags of Pork in. It protects the bags from hot spots and melting. Also reheat in barely simmering water rather than a full on boil for the same reason...JJ
 
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