I smoke with a MB 44" propane smoker and I've noticed some of you don't use water or liquid in your pan. Can someone explain the pros and cons of using liquid?
Another reason some use water in the pan is for heat retention to assist in getting the temp back up quickly after you open the door. Some folks fill the pan with sand and then cover the sand filled pan with foil.
I smoke with a MB 44" propane smoker and I've noticed some of you don't use water or liquid in your pan. Can someone explain the pros and cons of using liquid?
Addition of water to the pan makes your smoker into a steamer.Smoke sticks to dry meat better
Richie
No prob comes down to what you prefer as some have stated dry.I don't think this is entirely accurate. ThiS is not to knock on you or anything, so please don't take it that way. And Without getting into the specifics of chemical bonding, smoke sticks better to wet surfaces, meat, metal, whatever. This is why people spritz their meat when smoking.
That's pretty interesting stuff! Myron Mixon uses a water smoker.
I am constantly looking for sites that show the results of scientific tests. I just found one site that contains the results or various tests relating to moisture in a smoker, and the way the articles are written makes it sound reasonably authoritative. Here is a link to one of three articles I just read:
Importance of Humidity and Surface Moisture in Smoke Retention
This is a long article, but here are the summary statements, all of which agree with things I have read elsewhere:
You really should read the article to see why the author comes up with these conclusions. There is some real science involved. Pretty much everything I have read that is based on science says that surface moisture, whether from spraying, moisture escaping from the meat, or from moisture coming from a water tray, all contribute to increased smoke absorption.
- Get the smoker smoking before adding meat, and make sure the meat is cold from the fridge.
- Keep the meat moist with a cold spray (if the smoker is well sealed) or a mop (if its not). If the surface dries out between applications, it may be hard to re-moisten. Just enough to keep it moist- too much, and you will wash off the smoke flavor.
- A proper water tray will keep the humidity high and the surface moist. The humidity also helps other combustion products agglomerate and deposit as flavor particle bombs.
- A rough surface (e.g a rub with coarse herbs) will trap more gas and particles than a smooth surface.
- A smoker with little airflow, like some electrics, create a larger stagnant bubble of air protecting the meat from smoke. Rapid, random air movement breaks up the bubble. For example, as strong convection fan.
- By the time the meat's internal temperature reaches 150F, you will have incorporated plenty of flavor and even developed a smoke ring- ok to finish off in foil or a conventional oven. Just please, please don't boil your meat into submission- keep the oven's temperature under 250F.
I also have just read articles at several other sites that describe that historically, before we had electric and pellet smokers that can thermostatically control smoker temps, the water tray was used to keep the smoker temps from changing too quickly so the pitmaster had time to react before things got out of hand.
Based on this article, plus two others from the same site, I plan to continue to put a cup or two of hot water in the tray to provide moisture during the early stages of the smoke, before the meat is creating its own moisture through sweating, and to spray the meat once an hour until a bark starts to build up. The one tip I got from this site that I had not seen before is that you might get better results starting with a really cold cut of meat, right out of the fridge because the cold helps condense the moisture in the smoker, and that condensate attracts more smoke.
If you scroll down this page to the "Barbecue & Grilling" sections, there are several other really fascinating (well, they are to me) articles:
Barbecue and Grilling
johnmeyer, this was posted in a thread I did a couple years ago, good info. Glad to see it brought up again.
I am constantly looking for sites that show the results of scientific tests. I just found one site that contains the results or various tests relating to moisture in a smoker, and the way the articles are written makes it sound reasonably authoritative. Here is a link to one of three articles I just read:
Importance of Humidity and Surface Moisture in Smoke Retention
I just joined the forum in November, so I didn't see that post. I just read it all, and it is fantastic! Thanks for the link.
johnmeyer, this was posted in a thread I did a couple years ago, good info. Glad to see it brought up again.
Understanding Smoke Management - updated 12/08/14
Thanks,
T