Shelf Stable Genoa

[BGKYSmoker]

Since getting rid of my dry chamber years ago i have had to improvise and hone my fermenting/drying to adapt to my RV life.

I do use UMAi and AJ's.

Today i'm making shelf stable genoa from AJ's site. I have used his products before with great success.
Included are very user friendly instructions. Do follow them if you make shelf stable.

2 of the 3 packets you use first.

Italian dry wine and the genoa mix and cure together.

If you can try not to use any water, just the wine.
Mix good.

Im going with the genoa in the fridge overnight. Tomorrow before stuffing i will mix in the 3rd packet.

For those who want to get into shelf stable SS, Salami and others i would say take a trip to his site.

 

[indaswamp]

Awesome project Rick. I've not heard of this AJ's before, will check them out, thanks for posting.

 

[BGKYSmoker]

I thought way back AJ was a forum member or that he went by curley's

 

[indaswamp]

I see the kit uses ECA; no fermentation necessary?

 

[chopsaw]

Just did a double take of the label on the package . I go thru Washington all the time . That's about an hour from me . I'll have to see if he has a store front .

 

[Brokenhandle]

interesting, thanks for sharing! Not sure if I'll ever get to it with the never ending to do list.

Ryan

 

[bill ace 350]

Looks good. I wonder what the amount/% of sodium nitrate and nitrite compares to Tenderquick?

 

[BGKYSmoker]

I would not use any TQ, Adds to much salt to the product....But thats me

Early morning mixing of the ECA.

Chubs are all stuffed.

Getting 2 hours of dry time for the collagen middles.

Hanging in the snoopy smoker at 130 for 1.5 hours.

My snoopy smoker is run by a PID, The temps are programmed. Smoke will roll at the 150 mark.

 

[bill ace 350]

I've used tenderquick in the past to make venison "pepperoni".

Venison, spices, TQ. Stuffed into natural hog casings, hung in refrigerator for about 8 weeks. Very good results.

Was just wondering how the product you used compared to TQ as far as the sodium nitrate/nitrite

 

[daveomak]

I've used tenderquick in the past to make venison "pepperoni".

Venison, spices, TQ. Stuffed into natural hog casings, hung in refrigerator for about 8 weeks. Very good results.

Was just wondering how the product you used compared to TQ as far as the sodium nitrate/nitrite

Bill, morning.... Just curious if you have calculated the nitrite/nitrate concentration in the meat...
Or do you add the TQ for the correct amount of salt ????

What is you TQ addition to how much meat... in grams or pounds is cool....

 

[bill ace 350]

Bill, morning.... Just curious if you have calculated the nitrite/nitrate concentration in the meat...
Or do you add the TQ for the correct amount of salt ????

What is you TQ addition to how much meat... in grams or pounds is cool....

I'll have to dig out my Jerry Predika book. My notes are there.

He didn't use cures in his recipes , but i felt better using TQ.

 

[BGKYSmoker]

I've used tenderquick in the past to make venison "pepperoni".

Venison, spices, TQ. Stuffed into natural hog casings, hung in refrigerator for about 8 weeks. Very good results.

Was just wondering how the product you used compared to TQ as far as the sodium nitrate/nitrite

I'm sure it will turn out good. The kit took all the rocket science out for me which is good.

Will let you know in 3-6 days after some dry time.

I was yaking with my neighbor and came back and the IT was 156 so i had to cool quick.

Going to get some hang time in the barrel with just the fan.

 

[bill ace 350]

I'm sure it will turn out good. The kit took all the rocket science out for me which is good.

Will let you know in 3-6 days after some dry time.

I was yaking with my neighbor and came back and the IT was 156 so i had to cool quick.
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Going to get some hang time in the barrel with just the fan.
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Looking good!

 

[crazymoon]

Rick, another awesome product!

 

[SmokinEdge]

Looks nice. Waiting on the money shot, and the flavor profile from AJ’s.

 

[BGKYSmoker]

Yeah buddy.

The chubs are dried to my liking.

Time to take the collagen middles off. Tip: if your using non edible collagen and your finding the meat is sticking, Soak the chubs in cold water for 5 mins, the collagen will peel right off.

They smell great.

Paper bag em and fridge for a couple days before vac sealing.

 

[chopsaw]

Perfect . Gonna swing by that place next time I'm out that way .

 

[Brokenhandle]

Can you make that pic a scratch n sniff? I wanna smell it too!

Ryan

 

[Bearcarver]

Excellent !!
Looks Great, Rick!!
Like.

Bear

 

[SmokinEdge]

Yeah buddy.

The chubs are dried to my liking.
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Time to take the collagen middles off. Tip: if your using non edible collagen and your finding the meat is sticking, Soak the chubs in cold water for 5 mins, the collagen will peel right off.
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They smell great.
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Paper bag em and fridge for a couple days before vac sealing.
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Looks awesome! So is this a 3-6 day salami? Then a few more days drying?