Well I went to get a butt to try pulled pork. Not to my surprize they didn't have one. But what I did get was a "Whole Picnic Grain Fed Pork Shoulder." 8 1/2 lbs. I noticed in another thread from Camocook the question about the skin. I don't see any skin on mine. Is that possible. Hey Camocook, You smoke'em from the south and I'll smoke'em from the north.