Abe loved the smoke, honest! I've had a smoker of sorts for a while, but haven't really "smoked". Couple of birds and sausages until a month ago when I smoked my first butt! Trying a brisket and spares today. I have learned a lot already from searching this forum. From rubs and mops to time frames and temperatures, you guys are a great help to those of us starting out. Thanks again and Happy 4th! btw, I have a "Great Outdoors - Smokey Mountain Series" vertical gas smoker.