But it is a package mix called Grandpa Josh's Pepperoni Snack Stick. It is easy and really really good. I put some cheddar cheese in it. In the past, I made it in an oven. But in my smoker, it is truly amazing. If you like more spice, I put pepperjack cheese in it and it kicks it up a notch. I can get you info on where to order if you want.