Mushy spare ribs?

Discussion in 'Pork' started by illnevertell, Feb 24, 2010.

  1. illnevertell

    illnevertell Newbie

    So I smoked A rack of st.louis style spare ribs this weekend. I used the 3-2-1 method. I felt like they just came out too this because of the foil? It was like they were TOO tender if that makes sense. Smoked at about 250 degrees and spritz with 50/50 apple juice/apple cider vinegar. ANY HELP?
  2. pineywoods

    pineywoods Smoking Guru Staff Member Administrator Group Lead SMF Premier Member

    I would say yes the amount of time in foil can make them "mushy" I would suggest playing with the numbers a bit and find what suits your tastes the best
  3. grampyskids

    grampyskids Meat Mopper SMF Premier Member

    Sounds fine to me. Just could have been the ribs. I just did a rack at 230 for a 3-2-1 and they were killer. Smoking is not rocket science, it is more like trail and error. Don't give up, hang in there an do it again. Mistakes will always get eaten.
  4. jirodriguez

    jirodriguez Master of the Pit OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Yup.... to much time and/or juice when foiled. 3-2-1 is a good place to start, then as you get to finding out what you like you can adjust those times. I found I like to have a good bark on my ribs, but not have it tough, so after much trial and error I found that I like it best when I cook them entirely without foil, then pull wrap in foil with no liquid added, wrap in a towel and rest them in a cooler for 1 hr. The cooler time softens the bark just a tad, and lets all the juice redistribute in the meat. I get a nice little tug, but still comes off of the bone cleanely.

    But keep in mind that is how I like them. Ribs are very subjective so try what you like. A good rule of thumb is to start unfoiled untill you see the meat pull back from the tip of the bone approx. 1/4" (roughly 2-3 hrs.). Then if you want to foil do so with only about 3 or 4 sprits of apple juice and put back into the smoker for about 1 to 1 1/2 hrs. Then pull from foil and put back on the smoker for another hour or so.

    You will find what you like best and how to achieve that with practice! So fire up the smoker, invite the friends and family over, crack a few beers, and do some "research"! [​IMG]
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  5. richoso1

    richoso1 Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Good summary and helpful. It's all in the taste.
  6. kanadan

    kanadan Fire Starter

    id drop the temp to 230 that might help
  7. pignit

    pignit Master of the Pit OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    The difference between the 3-2-1 method at 250 degrees and 225 is substantial. Especially in the foil stage. Either keep your temp and lessen your time, or keep your time and drop your temp. It will make a huge difference in ribs.
  8. old poi dog

    old poi dog Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    All good advice above..especially about not giving up. Just work on each variable above one at a time and take good notes. You'll have it to your liking in no time.
  9. badhazard

    badhazard Newbie

    Ive had that happen to me before. I smoked 3 different racks all same method. One of the racks was bought in a pre-package (if you will). It was "enhanced" with god knows what. After I pulled the racks this rack came out as you described. The other 2 that I got from the butcher were great.
  10. chisoxjim

    chisoxjim Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    yep, it is the time in the foil. THats one of the reasons I dont foil andy pork when it is on the smoker. I dont like the "meat jello" texture it can take on.
  11. i cook at around 240-250 and i have also had this problem with the 3-2-1. best thing to do is cut the foil time down. i go at most 1 1/2hr's in the foil sometimes less.
  12. herkysprings

    herkysprings Smoking Fanatic

    The amount of liquid in the foil is going to make a difference too. I use a few sprays, but significant liquid will really get the braising going and make mush.
  13. illnevertell

    illnevertell Newbie

    Thanks for all the tips guy. I will try dropping the temp and not foiling or foiling not near as long. I think maybe i put to muct apple juice in the foil too.
  14. smokebuzz

    smokebuzz Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    The Vinegar can do this also, how much liquid did you use ? 1 cup total?, that would be enuff to mush up meat along with being in foil

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