Ok, looking at all the qview for sausage & snack sticks i had to break down & buy a grinder!!! Ordered a gander mountain #12 it's on backorder but with the sale & the gander15 code it only cost me $228.00 can't complain about that price!!! If it takes a few weeks to get here that's ok!!Got 4 whole venison hind quarters in freezer just waiting to make some sausage!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for all the input on griders all!!!!!