Guideline Ratios for Making Your Own Rubs

Discussion in 'Sauces, Rubs & Marinades' started by wookie, May 30, 2008.

  1. wookie

    wookie Newbie

    Hi All,

    I'm still very much a novice at this whole smoking process, but love to tinker and know the theory behind a lot of what I do. And that goes for a lot more than just cooking. I'm an engineer...must just be in my nature.

    Anyways I'm looking into making a new rub for tomorrow's smoke, as I think my usual may be a bit too spicy for the crowd I'll be feeding. I was wondering if anyone has suggestions as to ratios they use or guidelines they work with when designing a new rub. For example:

    X parts paprika
    X parts sugars
    X parts salts
    X parts "heat" spices
    X parts "seasoning" spices

    I know the ratios concept probably won't hold up too well when it comes to the heat/seasoning spices as the individual ingredients can vary a lot when it comes to their respecitve flavor:volume ratios. But still, it would seem there's probably a good guideline to follow at least for the paprika, sugars, and salts. I know there's a million different right answers for this, but if anyone has some input, i'd love to hear it! Of for that matter, if you go about formulating your rubs in an entirely different way....please share! Let us in on your creative process.
  2. richtee

    richtee Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    2 parts paprika
    2 parts sugars
    1.5 parts salts
    .5 parts "heat" spices
    1 parts "seasoning" spices

    And go from there... close to my recipe. Seems to work well.
  3. gobbledot

    gobbledot Meat Mopper

    Richtee is da man [​IMG] .. One of many in this SUPER site~!!!!!!!
  4. ronp

    ronp Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    10- 4 for Richtee![​IMG]
  5. smokebuzz

    smokebuzz Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    many rubs have been derived from the 8-3-1-1 ratio

    8- salts
    1-seasonings of choice
    1-another seasonings of choice
    or total of 2 (parts)seasonings

    i tend to bring the salt/sugers closer together for ribs.
  6. baker2828

    baker2828 Smoke Blower

    I just watched a show on Food Network, (not the greatest source) but the 8-3-1-1 ratio started with sugar then salt then chili powder and then a combinaiton of many ingrediants to make the last one.
  7. smokebuzz

    smokebuzz Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    many folks will do the the 8-suger 3 -salt, but many like the salt on butts and briskets. i have done many with more suger than salt, useally for ribs.
  8. johnd49455

    johnd49455 Smoking Fanatic OTBS Member

    May I recommend Jeff's Rib rub as a good place to start. I fell in love with it & use it on almost everything I smoke, with minor variations based on what kind of meat I am smoking.
  9. baker2828

    baker2828 Smoke Blower

    nothing wrong with using a proven product, but I don't want my Que to be know for Jeffs Rub, I think his thought was to inspire others to innovate and expand on what he has to thier own taste. Thats my goal...not trying to be mean but thats my goal fine what my family and I like.
  10. smokebuzz

    smokebuzz Master of the Pit OTBS Member

  11. johnd49455

    johnd49455 Smoking Fanatic OTBS Member

    What I meant was to use Jeff's rub as a place to start for the ratio's. I have done exactly as you said. That is what I meant by tweaks for different types of meat.
  12. baker2828

    baker2828 Smoke Blower

    Your right not trying to piss anyboyd off but i think what you are saying is spot on,
  13. supervman

    supervman Smoking Fanatic

    This might be messy jumping into, but a recipe is a GUIDE.

    I have just sent payment to Jeff for his sauce and rub recipes.
    ANY recipe - In my Opinion - is just that, a guide to tweak and modify as your personal tastes see fit. We all have our own personal composition and different likes/dislikes (family member considreations as well). SP?
    With any luck you don't even need to tweek. It just ROCKS by itself.

    If you really want to know what I think - ANYONE - who is not willing to share a recipe is a fool.

    We ALL need to eat and why not do it better? Why not let others enjoy the pleasure of a fantastic meal with their family?

    I have no problem paying for a recipe - sort of like buying a cookbook.

    BUT, my real problem is those folks who have a knock out recipe and won't share it and take it to their grave. What purpose does that serve?

    I honestly just don't get it. Those people are eventually forgotten and the fine food will never be enjoyed again. That makes no sense. Repetitiveness can let you learn the "touch" but you need the original guide to take you down the path.

    I used to be a professional chef and I share recipes with folks all the time.
    I'm new to smoking but I LOVE THIS PLACE!

    People HERE are kind, they share, they help, That's what it's about man.

    Keep 'er up.
    P.S. I ALWAYS follow a new recipe VERBATUM the first time, take notes and tweak from there. Besides, the experienced pallat knows before hand what it likes and dislikes prior to prep and cooking of the food, therefore, some recipes you just don't even bother to make and others you CAN'T WAIT to dig in to.
  14. richoso1

    richoso1 Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Richtee has got it going on...
  15. richtee

    richtee Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Well, therin lies the fun too. Since the "part" can be a teaspoon, you can mess around with it easily and cheaply.

    And as is well known... I am NOT a "sweet" fan. ;{)
  16. chargrilled

    chargrilled Meat Mopper

    Secret recipes have supported folks and families for generations. Literally put food on their tables. People have and will drive 100's of miles just to taste someone's recipe, for a couple of bucks[​IMG].
  17. smokebuzz

    smokebuzz Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    And when you get into comps, it's the difference between winning and wondering how the other guy wins all the time. i have many i would share, and a many i won't yet. sauce/glazes are no differnt.

    Folks spend a lot of time developing that knock out rub and sauce,and are'nt real quick to offer it up.
  18. timothy

    timothy Newbie

    Who is Jeff?

    What is his recipe for Rub?
  19. meowey

    meowey Master of the Pit OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Jeff Phillips owns this site. We are all grateful to him for providing the means for us to enjoy this forum. Here is a link to his rub and sauce page. It's well worth the $$.

    Hope this helps!

    Take care, have fun, and do good!


  20. baker2828

    baker2828 Smoke Blower

    That is a good link, and I think its what we all were trying to say last night. Its all about a base recipe and then tweaking to taste, I didn't think about it but when I rub my brisket I use more salt and pepper in addition to my original rub. You make a good point, thanks for the link.

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