I live in Caif. and have used Pappy's rub for a long time. They make it in Fresno Ca. I started out using on tri tip and everyone loved it, then I used it on steak same remarks. I use it on chicken breasts with great results. I just tried it on pork ribs in my smoker and they were the best ribs I have ever eaten. They were my first ribs in smoker, I put rub on night before I smoked them and thought I over did it a little but the finnished product were just perfect. Used the 3-2-1 method and used a little of all the wood I had. Hickory, cherry, mesquit,and almond. Pappy's has a good web site. Hope this helps.