Getting to run with the Big Dawgs now. Need some advise - new from Kentucky

Discussion in 'Roll Call' started by workoutchamp, Apr 3, 2008.

  1. Hi all,

    I met a commercial smoker pit producer at a food show - super guy with a super product (anon). He told me KY isn't a "popular" Q state - and after trying to find Q joints, I have to agree - they are hard to find here in the Bluegrass State. HOWEVER, no one asked me! I am a Q hound - love TX dry rub style the best so far, but it's hard to find bad Q - just some's better than others, right?

    I started with an El Cheapo Brinkman, then to a GOSM - actually love it, but it is impossible to get mine hot enough and to hold the heat. Its good to around 185-200, but that makes for some rubbery pastrami - even after 10 hrs.

    I am ready to order a big rig now and would LOVE some input from you experts out here in SMF land.

    I want to use it myself for weekends and may even do an event for a friend. I also have a need to cook for 200 at a time several times a year, plus I am thinking of perhaps renting it out to good buddies.

    1 - Am I being a dreamer here for thinking this?
    2 - What would you all suggest? Budget is around $4k +/-

    Thanks in advance - this info is invaluable to me.

    Best, Brad

    PS - if anyone needs any KY Bourbon advise - I may be your man!
     
  2. pineywoods

    pineywoods Smoking Guru Staff Member Administrator Group Lead SMF Premier Member

    Welcome I can't answer your questions but I'm sure somebody that can will be around shortly. Check out some of the smoker pages and see what you come up with
     
  3. kookie

    kookie Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Welcome to smf.............Lots of great info here.........Check some of the posts, lots of mods for the GOSM and the ECB..............Also lots of posts on the big rigs, like the langs and such.............
     
  4. lcruzen

    lcruzen Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Hey Brad and welcome to the SMF. Michigan isn't exactly considered to be a Q mecca but we have quite a few members here that kick out some great Q. 4k is a pretty good budget and sounds like you might want to think about a towable for the big smokes your doing.


    Lou
     
  5. richtee

    richtee Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Welcome to SMF, Brad. It's kind of tough to nail down a choice with that info, but is sounds like you want to look into a medium size towable. Lang as some of the best around, and Klose pits are highly recommended as well. Lots of custom builders around... do some searching and come back with some specific questions and we might be of more assistance.

    Enjoy!
     
  6. bassman

    bassman Master of the Pit OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Welcome to the forum, Brad! There are some folks here that have experience in the big smokers. I'm sure they'll be along shortly. As far as your GOSM, it doesn't sound right to not be able to get higher temps. It's similar to my Smoke Vault and I can crank it up to 350 or more if desired. Keith
     
  7. fatback joe

    fatback joe Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Welcome to the forum.

    There are many good pits that can handle what you are looking for in the price range you mentioned with Lang's being the most popular (in the South anyhow).
     
  8. capt dan

    capt dan Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    I love my mobile 60( Lang), but I could never feed 200 off of it at one time without doing a bunch of pre-cooking. The 84 probably would get ya close. Meadow creek has a 250 thats just as nice, and has some other nice features. The Klose pits are nice, but you won't get much in a towable for 4 k with them. Diamond Plate has a unique design, and that may be what you are lookin for, but I am not sure on their prices. I'll see if I can get ya a few links!

    Welcome to the SMF![​IMG]
     
  9. capt dan

    capt dan Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    here ya go! Whew, that was fast![​IMG]

    Acme Custom BBQ grills and pits
    Friendswood, TX
    http://www.acmewelding.com/BBQ.html

    Austin National Smoker Company
    Noblesville, IN
    http://www.austinnationalsmokers.com
    Pits made from New steel pipe and plate
    Backyard/Competition/Catering
    Specializing in rotisserie barbecue pit smokers

    BBQ Pits by Klose
    Houston, Texas
    http://www.bbqpits.com

    BBQ Pits and Smokers
    Cedar Park, Texas
    http://www.bbqpits.biz/index.html

    Big Drum Smokers
    Rocky Richmond
    Naples, NC
    http://groups.msn.com/BigDrumSmoker-BDS
    New steel drum construction, various sizes

    Big Jims Custom BBQ pits
    http://www.bigjim.freeservers.com/smokers.html
    Propane tank smokers


    Cattle King BBQ Pits
    Family Owned & Operated
    Fred L. Voigt
    New Braunfels, Texas
    http://www.angelfire.com/tx3/RigWelders/CK.html

    Cookers and Grills
    Watkinsville, GA
    http://www.cookersandgrills.com
    Reverse Flow, new propane tank construction
    Backyard/Comp/Catering

    D Wiley BBQ Pits
    Buda, Texas
    http://myjobisthepits.com
    New propane tanks

    Davis Smokers and Grills
    Glennville, GA
    http://www.davissmokersandgrills.homestead.com

    Diamond Plate Products
    Ballinger, Texas
    http://diamondplateproducts.com
    Makes full Custom BBQ pits from new steel tanks
    Backyard/Competition/Catering

    Detroit Grill King
    Detroit, MI
    http://www.detroitgrillking.com

    Gator Pits of Texas
    Houston, Texas
    http://gatorpit.net
    Makes full custom BBQ pits from steel pipe and plate
    Backyard/Competition/Catering
    Pit accessories
    Excellent customer service

    Grillnsmoke bbq smokers
    Laredo, Texas
    http://www.grillnsmoke.com/Page_1.php
    Custom smokers

    Holstein Manufacturing
    Holstein, Iowa
    http://www.holsteinmfg.com
    Very large range of grills and smokers

    Horizon Smokers
    Perry, OK
    http://www.hightide.com/horizon2/products.html

    Jedmaster Cookers
    McCalla, Al
    http://www.jedmaster.com

    JR Enterprises
    Dewitt, Arkansas
    http://www.jrenterprises.com

    KCK BBQ Smokers
    Kansas City, KS
    http://www.kck.com

    L&R Custom BBQ Pits
    Stephenville, TX
    http://www.lrbbqpits.com

    Lang Smoker Cookers
    Nahunta, GA
    http://www.pigroast.com
    Pits made from new propane tanks
    Backyard/Competition/Catering

    Lone Star Welding
    Richmond, TX
    http://www.lswelding.net/index.html
    Custom BBQ pits with some interesting art add ons

    LONE STAR
    Custom Pits & Grills, Inc
    Humble, Texas
    www.lonestarcustompits.com
    Custom BBQ Pits

    Long Horn BBQ pits
    Uvalde, Texas
    Available at Factory Direct BBQ Pits and Smokers Cedar Park, Texas
    http://www.bbqpits.biz/index.html

    Lyfe Tyme - BBQ Pits
    Uvalde, Texas
    http://www.lyfetyme.com
    Manufactured pits with some customizing available
    Pits made from New steel pipe including uprights
    Makes full custom mobile pits

    Meadow Creek Welding
    New Holland, PA
    http://www.meadowcreekbbq.com/Welcome.html

    Olalla Smokers $ Grills of Olalla
    Chuck Senn
    4345 SE Burley-Olalla Rd.
    Olalla, WA. 98359
    Phone: 253/ 857-4420

    Old Country BBQ Pits
    Laredo ,Texas
    http://www.bbquepits.com
    Mass Produced old style BBQ pits

    Peoria Custom Cookers
    Peoria, Illinois
    http://www.peoriacustomcookers.com
    Backyard and mobile pits. Rolled plate construction.

    Pits by Jambo
    Jamie Geer Phone 817-572-7631 home, cell 817-822-1689
    Hand made one at a time with incredible attention to detail. These are the pits used with great success by Johnny Trig of the Smoking Triggers, Uncle Earnie and Jamie and his Buckwheat Express team.

    Pits by JJ
    Houston, Texas
    http://www.pitsbyjj.com
    Makes full custom BBQ pits from steel pipe and plate
    Backyard/Competition/Catering

    Pitts and Spitts
    Houston, Texas
    http://pittsandspitts.com
    Pits made from New steel plate and stainless steel
    Backyard/Competition/Catering

    Quality Grills
    Detroit, MI
    http://www.qualitygrills.com
    Huge custom mobile pits

    Real Grill
    West Palm Beach, Florida
    http://www.realgrill.com
    New propane tank smoker/grills

    Southern Yankee Bar-B-Q
    Anderson, IN
    http://www.sybbq.com
    Makes full custom BBQ pits from steel pipe and plate
    Backyard/Competition/Catering

    SWS Superior Welding Service - Southwest Smoker
    North Little Rock, AR
    http://www.southwestsmoker.com
    Pits made from New steel pipe and plate
    Backyard/Competition/Catering

    Tejas Smokers
    Houston, Texas
    http://www.tejassmokers.com
    Well engineered production backyard smokers and grills
    New 1/4" steel plate construction
    Great selection of outdoor cooking gear and accessories for your smoker
    Great customer service

    The Good One- Goodwin Enterprises
    Burns, KS
    http://www.thegood-one.com

    TMP BBQ Pits
    Midland, Texas
    http://www.gotmp.com/bbqpits.htm

    Tucker Cookers
    Memphis, Tennessee
    http://www.tuckercooker.com
    Very nice mobile smoker/grills

    Western Rebel BBQ Pits
    Chino Hills, California
    For more information call 909-994-5826
    Out of this World BBQ Products
    Distrbutor for Western Rebel BBQ pits
    http://www.outofthisworldbbq.com/index.html
     
  10. k5yac

    k5yac Smoking Fanatic SMF Premier Member

    Welcome... nice to see ya!
     
  11. Holy Smoker Man! Now that's some help - now that clears it all up! [​IMG]

    I will peruse - looks like old Ben Lang is in the running for sure. I noticed the Meadow Creek has that cool V drain to send the grease running to one end/drain valve area I assume. Do the Lang's have that?

    Capt - I have a partner/smoked food lover in Plainwell - he does a lot of biz in Kazoo.

    Thanks for all this guys! I have pictures, so I will be posting some of my fun.

    Brad - again, the offer is out there for Bourbon lessons - anytime.
     
  12. Yes, the Lang 84 has a V in the drip pan. [​IMG] Talked to Ben again today.

    Brad
     
  13. travcoman45

    travcoman45 Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Welcome aboard, glad to have ya! Can't help ya much on them big rigs, others will though I'm sure. Now for your GOSM, you got a problem somewhere, that rig should have no troubles gettin to temp. I've got one and run 225*-250* with the dial set between low and medium.

    Look at your burner and make sure you have a nice blue flame with just yellow tips all the way around it, might have some spots that are plugged. Maybe turn that control knob back and forth a few times to make sure it is not sticky with some sort of debris.

    In cool weather, it can be hard to get LP to flash off into gas, but these rigs are not using enough fuel for that to be a problem. Somthing is up that you are not getting a higher temp.

    Check your hose to make sure it is not kinked or flattened out somewhere. Could be as simple as a dirty burner. Let us know if anything helps out. Course, this is all assumin you got a gasser!
     
  14. OK, I took the thing apart this morning - what a [email protected]# mess! [​IMG]

    The blue flame with tiny yellow tips is correct - that is optimum clean burn. There is no air control, so I have to increase the size of the orifice a TINY bit.

    So I felt the orifice may be a little clogged. A big paper clip should be about the right size, so a tiny bit larger may work better. I took one of those "lettered" sized drill bits and made the orifice a micro bit bigger - too big.

    Tons of yellow (carbon) which makes everything black. [​IMG]

    So what does a red blooded man do? Sends his wife to WalMart in her pick up truck of course, "honey, go buy me another smoker - FAST" we are now 2 hrs behind. [​IMG]

    They are only $99 bucks now - great. Mine was wonderful for 3, 4 maybe 5 yrs! Mine was made in Arkansas and was about 150. now they are from China - I'd rather pay the extra 50 bucks - big difference in quality and the old one is a little bigger.

    I am not going to chuck this one, anyone know where I can buy parts?

    Film - and brisket at 11 [​IMG]

    Brad
     
  15. earache_my_eye

    earache_my_eye Smoking Fanatic OTBS Member

    If you can get the orifice out...(threaded in??)...U should be able to get another one at any appliance repair shop.

    L8r,
    Eric
     
  16. smokinit

    smokinit Smoke Blower SMF Premier Member

    The lang 84 should fit your bill for the 200 people mark I use one in catering myself. There is more work involved in using a stick burner but they are great fun. If getting your rest is more your thing that insulated cabinet smokers work great. Check them out www.backwoods-smoker.com I use both so feel free to use me and abuse me[​IMG]
     
  17. bertjo44

    bertjo44 Smoking Fanatic

    Welcome Brad. Sounds like you are getting good info. I have a GOSM and have no problems with the temp. Does yours have vents on each side. My dad was looking for one and said he saw one with no vents, I said stay away. They could be easily added if this is the problem.
     
  18. Eric,

    I will post a photo here to show why I like my GOSM, so I think I am going to just convert it to wood.

    Yes, I had the orifice out, but I really humped the monkey drilling it oversized. I can't imagine I went over .040" - made a "carbon"ic difference.

    Wood - here I come!
     
  19. Smokinit,

    I checked out the insulated cookers - they look great.

    I am really looking forward to the Lang's arrival.

    Thanks for the input and I will be getting back to you - thanks for the offer.

    Brad
     
  20. Bert,

    Ok, here's the deal. My (now obviously old) GOSM has two vents on the side, made completely different than the new ones and is heavier than he## is old school - and that is why I think I'm going to play with it to keep it going.

    The new burners will fit my old GOSM, but I have to look into IF I can get parts - if anyone knows here, I am all ears.

    So I am battling the old GOSM for an hour, my wife goes and gets me a new one - now I am cooking on two new GOSMs - totally different than my old one and new to me. Here are some pics

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    It doesn't look that much bigger, but it is. Here is the interior -

    [​IMG]

    So everyone is used to the look of the interior, but the chip box is sillily small, hence the "cliff hangers". Note the huge yellow tips, but no carbon black-ness. Hmmmm. Now, let's compare the old one -

    [​IMG]

    HUGE difference. See the vents on the side - I am not sure whether these are to be open, closed or --- I do the safe thing and go in the middle. I can fit a TON of Q on these racks - plus the top rack, I can put 2 rib racks on and put St. Louis style up there (not full ribs from Walmart, but baby backs or St. Louis). 2 racks one in front of the other.

    The new burners are a BLESSING to work with - the cabinet is a bit small now since I am spoiled, but we had some GOOD Q!

    Country style pork ribs (not real ribs, but dang, they are always good). $2.19/lb
    Chicken Quarters - 10lb bag, $4.70
    [​IMG]
    NOTE - see "healthy" vitamin water and a bottle of Makers in the same pic
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]

    2 racks of ribs
    2 pastramis
    2 lbs of Beer Brats

    Pastramis and ribs 6 hrs
    Chicken and country style ribs 4 hrs
    brats 2 hrs

    The reason Pam is so happy - she brought home-made Caramel Pear Martinis - whoa - now this is a yummy time.
    [​IMG]

    Brad
     

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