I know, q-view, I will get there. But I wanted to say the whole hog event yesterday was a huge success! It turned out better than I hoped! Compliments all around! Thank you all for your posts and knowledge! It would not have been possible with out your help! Pic will come. Success on a cinder block pit, with a fire box. 74 pound hanging weight pig. Low and slow for about 12 hours. Newbies, if you are hesitant, don't be. Read, follow and understand, you can do it! I am ready to do it again. Thanks to all of you!