cold smoke chicken

Discussion in 'Poultry' started by scooter, Oct 11, 2007.

  1. scooter

    scooter Newbie

    [​IMG] Help! I hope someone can help me with this little question. Is it safe to COLD SMOKE poultry? Or will it stay in the danger zone for to long as for the internal temperature. After it is cold smokes it would be cooked in an oven or bbq and brought to the 180' temperature. Also after it is smoked can it be frozen safely? This would be a fresh chicken that would be frozen not one that is thawed.
    Any help would be appreciated.

    thanks scooter[​IMG]
     
  2. fatback joe

    fatback joe Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    I would not do it unless you were going to cure it first.
     
  3. richtee

    richtee Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    What Fat Back said. And before serving or freezing, bring it to 160 internal.
     
  4. cowgirl

    cowgirl Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Ditto to what Joe and Richtee said. It needs to be cured of you are going to cold smoke it.
     
  5. bbq bubba

    bbq bubba Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    I agree with the above but want to ask why would you want to cold smoke chicken?? Just curious.
     
  6. richtee

    richtee Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Heh.. I meant to ask that...
     
  7. fatback joe

    fatback joe Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    I have been wondering the same thing.

    The only thing I could come up with was the thinking that smoke it for the flavor first and then cook it at a later date where smoking might not be possible versus just having reheated smoked chicken...................any other theories before Scooter gets back to us?
     
  8. deejaydebi

    deejaydebi Smoking Guru

    Sounds like he wants to try to pre-smoke for grilling or cooking sometime later. Could be real dangerous.

    If that's the ticket I think I'd do a brine with maybe liquid smoke then freeze it and cook it up later. Or you could just smoke it up like normal and freeze it to reheat later. I wouldn't try a cold smoke with chicken!
     
  9. scooter

    scooter Newbie

    The idea was to have it pre-smoked to cook at a later date. But thanks to all of you and your knowledge THAT won't happen. I'll smoke it and cook it to the correct internal temperature and then freeze it if i want it for a later day. Oh by the way, I always use a brine of most of the meats that I smoke and alway on poultry.
    Thanks for the advice.

    From a novice

    scooter
     
  10. flagriller

    flagriller Smoking Fanatic OTBS Member

    Don't do it.
     
  11. pescadero

    pescadero Smoking Fanatic OTBS Member

    Great idea. . . and it works on some foods, too. Poultry is just not one of them. It was good that you took the time to ask. It might have saved a problem.

    Good Luck,

    Skip
     
  12. I have been buying cold smoked chicken from our local Meat Market for 20 years and have never gotten sick. The Problem is that they won't give up there seceret, I've tried and tried toget  there receipe and they must sign some sort of non-disclosure agreemant when they go to work there. Its a secret I'd love to discover, they make the best.
     
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  13. chef jimmyj

    chef jimmyj Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator Group Lead OTBS Member

     Is the Chicken Smoked but Raw when you purchase it and you have to cook it?  Does the Chicken have a slightly Pink color with a Hammy flavor after cooking? This would indicate it was Cured before cold smoking. It may very well be smoked in a temp controlled room that is kept below 40*F while it is being smoked, This would be completely safe. The problem is putting a Chicken in a 90*F smoker in June and smoking for 4 hours and sticking it in the refer to be cooked another time...Really Dangerous...JJ
     
  14. I just had chicken at a Portland restaurant called Old Salt on NE 42nd. They said that they cold smoke it and then roast it to temperature. They said they don't pre-brine. It was one of the most delicious tasting chickens I've ever had. I am going to have to go back and try to quiz the chef about it.

    It's worth investigating as it was truly an amazing tasting chicken.
     
  15. sawinredneck

    sawinredneck Meat Mopper

    L
    The difference being they immediately roasted it, no time for bacteria to grow. As mentioned above, taken above 40deg bacteria grows and throwing hot poultry into a freezer makes it grow faster.
    Maybe something the OP can do on a really cold day with an AMNPS?
     
  16. gpb11

    gpb11 Meat Mopper

    Well, the OP has had eight entire winters to try it since he posted his question in 2007...  [​IMG]
     
  17. crankybuzzard

    crankybuzzard Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Now that was just funny!

    Maybe he didn't reply because he DID try and cold smoke uncured chicken....
     
  18. sawinredneck

    sawinredneck Meat Mopper

    Man, missed that completely!
     
  19. oldschoolbbq

    oldschoolbbq Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Well , scooter , guess A Cold Smoke is out . . .

    Just as good as fresh . . .

    Have fun and. . , .
     

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