Chips Vs Chunks Smoke Vault 24

Discussion in 'Woods for Smoking' started by quecop, Jun 17, 2010.

  1. Hey Guys,

    I am getting ready for my new Smoke Vault to be delivered.  I have already gotten wood chips that were recomended for it but after reading the Chips or Chunks thread I was wondering what others have used in their Smoke Vault.  I think I am gonna try a combination of both.  Do the chunks have to be any particular size in order to smoke well??  Wet dry??

    I am all ears.......

    Thanks again

    Eugene
     
    Last edited: Jun 17, 2010
  2. mballi3011

    mballi3011 Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

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    I use both with chunks in the middle (the hottest area) and then chips on the outside edges. That way the chunks smoke longer and slower and the chips give me smoke right then. I also don't soak my chips or chunks.
     
  3. matts

    matts Smoking Fanatic

    I have a CCSV 24" and I used to use chips all the time.  But I tried chunks one day and instantly said I would never use chips again.  You can use any size chunks.  I have been cutting my own chunks out of hickory and they have been averaging 3" x 3" x 2" tall.  The main thing you will have to watch with this smoker is where you put the chip pan.  If you are doing a low temp smoke (under 200) then you will need to put the pan all the way down on the bottom of the smoker.  Once you get in a normal cooking range (around 225) then put the pan in the designated spot.  A chunk like the size I mentioned with the pan in the normal spot, will burn real slow and long at the 225 range.  You can't hardly tell anything is burning, but you will be able to smell it just fine.  You got a great smoker there, play around with different things and once you get it figured out, there's nothing you won't be able to do.

    oh ya, welcome to SMF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Matt
     
  4. bassman

    bassman Master of the Pit OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Like the others, I use chips to get the smoke started, then switch to chunks.  It won't take long and you will be smoking like a pro.
     
  5. Thanks for the help guys!!!!
     
  6. stl-rich

    stl-rich Fire Starter

    IMHO if you soak chips then when you get them hot they give off steam - then they burn.  If I use chips (I usually use chunks) I wrap them in aluminum foil and punch a FEW small holes in the foil so the chips can't burn (not enough oxygen) instead they smoulder and give off tasty smoke :D
     
  7. old poi dog

    old poi dog Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    I like to use chunks for both my GOSM and Smoke Vault.  I find that the chunks I use usually produce the thin blue at about 190-210 degrees.  In the GOSM  I replaced the firebox with and old 10 inch cast iron fry pan.  The smoke tray on the Smoke Vault in cast iron so no need to  replace there.
     
  8. We have SV customers that use our various varieties of chunks rather than chips - simply because they smoke longer and slower. If you ever want to try something you can't find  -let me know we can custom size for you if you determine you need a specific size to reach your desired effect - happy smokin'
     
  9. swing2glory

    swing2glory Newbie

    you said if you have something specific in ming for a taste in smoking let me know...

    so what do you recommend for some starter recipes / websites where to buy chips/chunks for a first time smoker but a big fan!??

    thanks!
     
  10. I always soak my chips before putting them in the smoke vault. The one time I didn't, the darn thing caught fire in 10 mins.

    Am going to try chunks next as the chip seem to burn in about an hour or so & I don't want to open the unit every hour.

    Soak the wood first. You'll be happy you do at the end. [​IMG]
     
  11. smokinal

    smokinal Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator OTBS Member ★ Lifetime Premier ★

    Dry chunks here!
     
  12. I use chunks of soaked apple
     
  13. So the big question is, what's the difference in taste between  soaked and dry chunks/chips?
     
  14. smokinal

    smokinal Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator OTBS Member ★ Lifetime Premier ★


    There is no difference in taste unless you get real heavy smoke then it tastes bitter no matter what you use. The Smoke Vault produces nice smoke with dry chunks & 1 chunk will last about 1 to 1 1/2 hours, depending on how big it is.
     
  15. smoketexring

    smoketexring Fire Starter

    I prefer chips because I have a s##tload bagged up on the shelf.  Using the Smokin Tex you simply don't need a lot of wood. A few ounces is all you need.
     
  16. Please tell me how you enjoy your Smokin Tex.  Thinking on a 1400 model but have never used an electric smoker before.  Have been using a propane GOSM for past 6 years. Hard to convert myself over ??

    Gerry
     
  17. I've used both; on a short smoke (like chicken wings) chips work better because they "burn" at a more rapid pace.  On long smokes, chunks will allow you to keep the door closed longer.
     
  18. I've used both; on a short smoke (like chicken wings) chips work better because they "burn" at a more rapid pace.  On long smokes, chunks will allow you to keep the door closed longer.
     
  19. I've used both; on a short smoke (like chicken wings) chips work better because they "burn" at a more rapid pace.  On long smokes, chunks will allow you to keep the door closed longer.
     
  20. steve k

    steve k Fire Starter


    Many threads on the soaked v. dry issue.  After doing both, I have concluded that dry smoke, produced in an o2 less environment, like a covered cast iron pan, or a stainless steel smoker box, (a couple advertised on this site), produces a very pleasing, smooth taste with professional looking color and texture.  My experiences with chips in an open pan have lead to chips burning up too fast and a harsher flavor.  Wet chips produce steam first, which causes an inconsistent color on the sausage casings, if you are trying for the professional look on a sausage.  I guess on brisket, it wouldn't make a difference.  Since I am now just burning apple and peach wood from my own trees, I usually use chunks or shredded wood, kind of a combination between chips and chunks.  The chunks burn the longest and I have had some wonderful all night smokes of brisket, shoulder, and kielbasa using dry chunks in a covered cast iron pan, 1/4" holes drilled in the cover.  My local Polish deli, which makes hundreds of pounds of smoked sausage per day, uses a similar method, but on a larger scale.  They use cherry chunks, which I also love, but I have a hundred pounds of apple, and no cherry trees. Apple it is.  Apple is great on pork, turkey, salmon.  It is not quite as strong tasting as hickory, so it is great if some of your guests haven't really acquired the taste of great smoked meats yet.  My 2 cents on wood in a nutshell.  Take it for what it's worth, your mileage may vary.
     

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