BBQ regret-rant about a lunch

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jtj

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May 24, 2008
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Dallas Texas
Im sure many of you can relate to this, and have probably been in this same spot and felt the same way....

I was running late to work, so I didnt pack a lunch like usual, figured I would just go with some co-workers. It always does me good to get out of the shop once in a while anyways. A group is going to the time clock to punch out, so I invite myself along, and no one objects. They dont have a plan, so we start driving towards the resteraunt strip down the street and will just wing it for whatever sounds good on an impulse...bad idea.

about 2/3 of the group in the van decides that a local bbq chain (Dick!@s, so as to not actually name the place!) spot would be where we will eat. We go in and order up. Now I grew up in a resteraunt/catering world, since my dad owned buisnesses in both. I know you cant smoke meat to order for lunch etc and some things just have to be made ahead of time for obvious reasons. This place didnt even smell like smoke, or any other carbon producing chemical reactions had EVER occured in there. I ordered a nice safe sliced beef sandwich, should be the staple of any bbq joint. there was NO smoke ring on any of the pices I got, nor on the hunk of brisket he was cutting off of. The baked beans were obviously a resteraunt supply companys canned product, straight to serving dish. I could go on but you get the idea. I figure I can drown it in sauce if its too bland, maybe it will be ok. The meat was grissely, greasy and outright tough. Each bite had me squeezing my fingers thru the bun to hold the rest of the slice in. the actual taste was like a london broil that had been cooked by itself in a broiler way too fast, nothing like a smoked brisket should be. All my co workers thought I was being too critical and ate away like nothing was wrong. They must have gotten thier food from another line or something, because mine was barel edible at best, mostly becasue it cost me almost $10 for a sandwhich, 2 sides and a glass of tea, and I wasnt wasting anything that cost me that much.

All I could think about was even when it isnt my best one, how much better my brisket is and how much $$ I spent on that hog feed they were pedaling as bbq. How many people eat that crap and dont know the difference/have never had proper piece of meat from a smoker? I went by the store on the way home to get a brisket and smoke one up this weekend to make amends (and apologize to my smoker for cheating on her!) and realized how I spent almost as much as that brisket for less than 8oz of meat and a bun. I now remember why I dont eat out at so called "bbq joints" anymore, I have set my standard too high (despite how low that still is!) for volume service places to satisfy. "If you want it done right,you have to do it yourself"


Sorry but I had to vent...
 
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Was it Dickeys? They always advertise here. Never ate there. Cutsey ads.
 
I agree with you, there's no real BBQ joints around here anymore, and like you said, the one's that are BBQ places seem like their meat is made by a processing company. What gets me is these places are always busy, I don't think a lot of people know what really good Q is.

On the opposite side of this story, I was working in Tampa a few months ago and stopped at this dump of a place call Big Johns BBQ and it was fantasic!! They had a huge pit out back and they chop the meat and dress the plates right in front of you. The beans and sauce were out of this world, some of the best bbq I've ever had. In fact it was their good Q that gave me the insperation to buy a smoker.
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Most folks in this area don't know Q at all. If the meat is tender or falling off the bone and are smothered with sauce then they love it. I think my friends and family are getting educated and now use my Q as a standard for comparison but we are in the minority.

What I find equally interesting is of all my friends and family that enjoy good Q none of them have any desire to do it. They just want to eat it. So I therefore have no smokin buddies to join me in all nighers or do any comparisons.
 
I've eaten a Dickie's before, and was just as impressed as jtj, which was not very much. The food was mediocre at best, and the prices were high. Fortunately we do have a good BBQ place here in San Antonio (Rudy's BBQ) in case I need a fix and don't have the time to cook myself.
 
May try to hit you up for Big Johns addy this winter , doubt I'd drive from Petes beach into Tampa for even good Q , but mayby on the way in or out.

Any real Q places twixt Don whoevers pink "palace" and Clear water ? Doubt it , but don't hurt to ask
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Big John's is good, but the area it's in, (how can I put this), isn't the most welcoming. It's safe during lunch time but I wouldn't want to be there after dark.

I really don't know of any good BBQ places on any of the beaches, lots of good seafood places though. I haven't really combed the beaches in a while, even thoguh I live less than 10 minutes from them. Give me a heads up when you're heading down and I may have a couple places to recommend by then.
 
I hear you, that's also why I can't get myself to go to any steak joints anymore either...Way too much $$$ and mine are way better than anywhere I've found.
 
Here in the tulsa area we have a bbq franchise with Rib as part of their name. They even have a smoker out back of all of their restaraunts. The other night my wife and I were in town and she wanted to eat. She said "lets go to Rib #%@* and get one of the stuffed baked potato's." So we went there. I made the mistake of ordering ribs, they tasted store bought and generic. They were no where near as good as mine. I dont mean to sound egotistical, I gave a rib to my wife and she agreed that they were not as tasty as mine. If we go back, I will get something more basic like a hamburger!

It is amazing to me, that people will go to them places and rave about how good they are. It is very obvious that the general public has never had the joy and thrill of good homemade Q.

It seems that some of the best QJoints are the little greasy looking hole in the wall places.
 
Will do. Since Dad past , Mom only goes down for a month instead of the four they used to. I get chaufer duties
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from here to there and back. I try to spend a couple of days there for each end of the trip.May do a fly down and rentacar this year , we'll see. Place is right on gulf blvd.
 
Always. I had a similar experience at some chain my friend dragged me to in Atlanta. No smoke smell. You could eat off the floor, but why would you want to? They didn't have anything edible in the entire place. Even their corn on the cob was frozen.

The best places are the literal BBQ shacks where you have to eat outside at picnic tables. You can see the smoker and the meat coming off of it.
 
I can see your point! It had been years since I have had Famous Dave's q and my father-in-law had a gift certificate he wanted to use. They ended up getting the large feast for everyone. It was horrible. The brisket didn't have a smoke ring and was completely flavorless, the ribs were bland and dry and the only smoke the pork had was in the sauce that was dumped on it. The chicken was the only thing that wasn't bad...but you know as well as I do, the only smoke it saw was from the cooks burning the other food.

What's this world coming to?
 
I think there are some very good Q' places around.You see them on the Food Ch.all the time,I like to watch some of the places Guy Fiero goes to.In Iowa there are a few,We have ate at Hickory Park in Ames since they initially started some 30/40 years ago.
Famous Daves........I ate at the one in Mankato,Mn. recently,the Mgr and I chatted a lot, she ended up selling me a 5# bag of there Rib Rub,Which is one of my favorites..got it for a huge bargain price.they say they use it on everything,including Turkey.
I bet our dudes in the DM,Ia area can relate to some great Q spots there.
 
A quote from my post of the local rib contest I entered in, and did not place:

"I have come to the conclusion that people up here generally don't know a good rib if it hits them in the head. They have eaten too many poor examples all their life in the North I figger."

http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/for...28955#poststop

Sooo... yep... if folks don't know what BBQ really IS... this is what ya get.

Talked to a guy yesterday who was part of the set-up of the event, he said there was about 2 slabs of mine left over the next day. The crew pronounced them the best of the leftovers...maybe there IS hope?? LOL!
 
I too have gotten to the point where I find fault in most commercial BBQ establishments. Hole in the wall joints are the best by far. I luckily have three near me that I frequent. One does Pit meats. They have the entire parking lot smelling like hickory. Stand inside for more than 5 minutes and you're smelling like it too.
 
we got a bbq joint here in town, they have the basic ribs, chopped pork, chopped beef, chicken. There usually very busy, me and wife went there about a month and a half ago, I got ribs, and to say the least, I am glad there was bbq sauce on the table, because if there were'nt I never would have been able to swallow those dry a$$ ribs. we decided that was it.

Last sunday we drove buy and on there sign, there it was, all you can eat bbq'd spaghetti, I looked at my wife, she looked at me and she said " yeh, were not goin back" . I am glad we feel the same way.
 
rich that link doesn't go anywhere.

You got to think if you were fed lean well done sirloin burgers all your life and you thought they were good then some one gave you a nice medium juicy burger you would think it was gross and under cooked. You don't learn what good Q is until you have had it several times.

Most people that aren't in to "good" food won't go to the "shacks" to eat they think there gross hole in the walls instead they go to the chains and get the flavorless standard food.
 
solar;238503 said:
I agree with you, there's no real BBQ joints around here anymore, and like you said, the one's that are BBQ places seem like their meat is made by a processing company. What gets me is these places are always busy, I don't think a lot of people know what really good Q is.

Solar:

I live east of Tampa, and good BBQ is all around us here -- from roadside stands to full-service restaurants. What you guys in Pinellas lack in good BBQ, we over here in Hillsborough lack in good seafood markets/restaurants. As much as I love seafood, I'll take the 'cue joints for the long term.

Some of the pros are even OK with sharing a tip or two. But make the trip east to some of our Cathedrals of 'Cue.
 
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