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ronp

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I was talking to Paul Beer-BBQ and I asked him about an octogon barrel rifle I have. It appears to be hand made, no identification what so ever. So I posted some pics and if you have any idea when it was made, how much it's worth ETC. I have had it for maybe 45 years myself, and I don't collect.

































Added more pics.

It's 38' long.

Any comments or advice will appreciated.
 
I like it !!! It is hard to tell from the pic but from the era I will "guess" a calipers would measure the inside of the barrel to .40 approx. and if that guess is correct, then I will guess the chamber length to fit a 45.70 cal. ??? If so, barrel and receiver made by Springfield? The stock is quite crude, it really makes it an original.

So you have owned it for 45 years..... Any story to go with it, where you aquired it?
 
It is an old rolling block receiver and would guess the time of manufacture around the time of the Civil War... i will do some research on it and see what i can find out.
 
Hey Mossy, thanks for the quick reply. The best I could measure with a rule was 3/8 inch.

So far as a story, an old guy gave it to me and I can't remember why. I think I was 16 or so and that is 50 years ago. I think I was his supervisor at 16? Maybe I was 18, but it was a long time ago.
 
That's what I was thinking by looking at the pictures, somewhere around a .38 caliber.

Are there any markings or stampings on the gun at all?

The stock is definitely crude/handmade & not of usual materials like walnut etc. Any guess what it is made of?

I'm also on a gun forum. I'll put this up to them.
 
I can't see any markings at all, nada. No idea what it is made of.

Thanks man.
 
Grain wise the stock appears to be something like southern yellow pine... Could possibly be made during the Civil War by the Confederacy when getting raw materials was hard...
 
Anybody else?
 
I did some gunsmithing when I was 25-30y/o.Had an old Sharp's 45-70cal.,yours is not a 45-70(unless the shell looks like a 410ga. shot shell with a slug in it...it's not a
trapdoor model and doesn't appear to be a rolling Block either, no lever action.Would be a single shot at about 40cal.,but the flip-over chamber lock and the 6 sided barrel could be a homemade job circa CivilWar. And the pine stock looks a crude replacement or maybe rough wear and tear. The cokking action looks to not have a safety and the trigger guard seems to be a Blacksmiths Scrolling. Could be Confederate...
But, that's just MY opinion
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Here is your rifle Ron... There is no doubt that It is a Rolling Block Flobert Parlor Rifle or Cadet Rifle, i believe it is going to be 32 Rim Fire.


Parlor Rifle



This is a nice Belguim Rolling Block Cadet Rifle in 8mm Flobert rimfire. These rifles were in Remington's sales list as being made under contract.
Cadet Rifle
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If it came from Remington's catalog it is not listed in Fjestad's Blue Book of Gun Values.

Given the condition of the gun, the value could range from a couple thousand to a couple hundred. There are a lot of variables in pricing firearms. It doesn't help that there are no markings.

Check around in town to see if there are any antique dealers that are familiar with guns. They might be able to give you an idea what you have.
 
Thanks Paul, it sure looks like it. Still no idea on value though?

Thanks also Iceman.

I wish I could retire on it, lol. Oh wait I am retired, stll have to work though.
 
I will trade you 2 quarts PPB and two racks of ribs, Throw in some ammo and I will make it Baby Backs, throw in delivery and I will throw in some of my BBQ saue.....Just Kidding You Ron

I have many guns and have collected them for some time and have not seen 1 like this. :Looks like Beer B Que nailed it for you Im just suprised that there are no markings on it but from that Era its probably not uncommon....Reguardless its a nice gun
 
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