2-2-1 Variations

Discussion in 'Pork' started by gaga, Jul 4, 2009.

  1. gaga

    gaga Fire Starter

    I've got 4 racks of babys on the smoker + a butt.

    I'm rolling with the 2-2-1. I understand some of you like to modify this approach. I read somewhere here that if you foil babys for 2 hours, that's too long. What are the negative results of foiling for too long?

  2. forluvofsmoke

    forluvofsmoke Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Depending on what you use for a brasing liquid, they can literally fall apart when you try to place them back onto the grates to firm up the bark. I use an acidic juice such as OJ/Lime/Lemon blends, or Pineapple (natural & effective tenderizers). This will require a reduction in brasing time, which is a nice thing. I cut it back to an hour or less at times.

    If you use less acidic liquids, for BBs, I would still go with 75-90 minutes brasing. Spares, 90-120 minutes.

    I'm doing 6 large slabs of untrimmed spares today, and plann on 75 minutes brase with OJ/Lime blend.

    The main thing to consider with foiling ribs is the pull-back of meat from the rib bone ends. A quarter inch is a good baseline for the majority of the rib slab, then foil. You will notice that with most smokes, the rib meat won't pull-back the same all the way across the slab, depending on actual grate temps and thickness of the slab...I just look a good pull on most of the slab.

    Good luck with your smoke!

  3. gaga

    gaga Fire Starter

    Thanks. I just poured a little Miller High Life in there. I guess I'll leave em foiled for 90 minutes.
  4. psychii

    psychii Newbie

    sorry, meant to start a new thread...
  5. tn_bbq

    tn_bbq Smoking Fanatic

    They fall apart.
  6. gaga

    gaga Fire Starter

    Thanks for the advice, yall. I foiled for 90 minutes. They fell apart a little bit.

    So I guess, for me at least, it should be 2.5-1-1.5?
  7. My last rack of BB's I did for 90-90-45 and they came out near perfect. The first time that I did them I went with the 2-2-1 and they came out way, way overcooked, hence why I changed my method.

    Hope that Helps
  8. chisoxjim

    chisoxjim Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    I do a modified foiling method myself. I smoke the ribs without foil, (spares, or BB's) until they pass the "tong test", then I pull the ribs, & tent, not wrap the ribs in foil.

    I law my foil out, lay down some honey, some of the rub, , and 3 tbsp of apple juice. I put the ribs meat side down, sprinkle some more rub on the back of the ribs, and tent the ribs, allowing them to steam. BB's go back on the smoker 20-30 mins, and spares go back on the smoker for about 45 mins.

    Turn out great, nice tug, but still tender, I dont like "fall off the bone" ribs, and these dont become that for those short foiling times.
  9. tn_bbq

    tn_bbq Smoking Fanatic

    Not that you want to be opening your smoker every half hour (causes the heat to fluctuate way too much), but remember that these "recipe" guidelines are just guidelines. It still takes some experience to know what a properly cooked rib looks like.

    Some days it'll take just over 4 hours and other days it'll take 6 hours.

    I find that about 1 to 1.5 hour in the foil suits me (for those days when I decide to foil).
  10. smoke freak

    smoke freak StickBurners

    Depending on how meaty the back ribs are...

    I usually do 2.5 hours or more in the smoke.
    Then into a large foil pan, bone side down. The pan needs to be long enough to hold the ribs with room to spare. I found mine at Super bowl time when they got snack food stuff galore in the stores. Then I add about 1/4 cup of juice. Just enough to steam things up a bit. Foil tightly and back in the smoker for no more than 1.5 hours.
    Then back into the smoke for around .5 hours.

    Works for me...
  11. jirodriguez

    jirodriguez Master of the Pit OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Yeah... it seems like you realy just have to pay attention to how your smoker cooks and adjust times accordingly. First time I ever smoke ribs I did 3-2-1, bark was a bit tough and the bones were falling out... lol. Now I go with more of a 2-1-1.5 (ish) I like just a hint of tug before it slides off of the bone [​IMG].

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