Got some of the Red Barn Bologna mix from Marty (good stuff) Did 2 chubs the old order Amish style in cloth un bleached muslin casings and 2 in normal fibrous. I really like my TSM 30lb smoker. From the top down. Using my adjustable AMAZN Tube smoker on the bottom, smokes great. Hung chubs at room temp 1.5 hours before smoker hanging. Started at 130* and final at 165* I like the old style rough texture of the cloth chubs. Dont know how many of you have seen this yet. Its a freeze wrap for your grinder. Works awesome and they fit most grinder sizes and from any maker. I think the box read from sizes #8 thru 42 Here it is frozen in action on the Red Barn Nice and cold and clean inside.