New MES 30" User - Novice Smoker - First Use Tips?

Discussion in 'Electric Smokers' started by rivertonsmoker, Jun 17, 2013.

  1. rivertonsmoker

    rivertonsmoker Fire Starter

  2. oldschoolbbq

    oldschoolbbq Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Um mm... yes! BE PATIENT  [​IMG]  . Get a good Thermometer [​IMG]  and wait for the BLUE...TBS that is...[​IMG]  .

    Have fun and as always . . .
     
  3. I also just purchased this smoker and am interested in learning what the common mods are for it.  Also I'm having a bit of a problem getting any smoke out of it under 250 degrees.  I've seasoned it and am now tinkering with it but I notice that sub 250 there is vitrtually no smoke and very little smoke smell coming from this unit.  Any help would be appreciated.

    I'm not soaking the chips and I'm only using about 1/2 a cup of them.
     
  4. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    I have used 4 different MES models, and none of them do a good job of putting out a nice light TBS (smoke).

    Get yourself an AMNPS to go with your MES & enjoy your smoking life forever!!!

    Bear
     
  5. So there is no way to get smoke from the unit under 250 without an aftermarket chip chamber?
     
  6. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    No--You can get smoke from the MES chip burner by getting the retro-fix chip burner, if your model  qualifies, but no matter what you do, you won't be able to get consistent TBS (thin blue smoke) for up to 11 hours, like you can with an AMNPS. A working MES chip burner will put out from too much smoke to just the right amount of smoke to No smoke. Then you put more chips in & start that cycle over again.

    Bear
     
  7. rivertonsmoker

    rivertonsmoker Fire Starter

    It's strange that so many people recommend the MES but it doesn't produce good smoke? I'm confused by this... it is a smoker... wouldn't that be an important part of the smoker being a good one?
     
  8. markyque

    markyque Smoke Blower

    I think the average consumer doesn't know what "good smoke" is.  For them the MES's will still produce decent results.  The AMNPS just makes it a much better product.
     
  9. rivertonsmoker

    rivertonsmoker Fire Starter

    I will most likley buy the AMNPS but it wont be here in time for me to do my BB in 2 days... so it just worries me the way people are saying there won't be smoke and my BB might not come out smokey and tasty.
     
  10. oldschoolbbq

    oldschoolbbq Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    As Trish says " Isn't there an end to needing something for that smoker?"[​IMG]

    Answer: " No" [​IMG]

     When my Tejas2040CC came , I was thrilled and overjoyed . I knew I'd need some Modifications and had planned for that by visiting Junk Yards and Dumpster Diving [​IMG]  Did  , O.K. , but needed some (more ) therms.  The ones on the Smoker are great and after several years of use , are still in the Ballpark for temps. However , the cheap  probes I was using soon gave up the Ghost , soooo...

    I got (or begged for ) Mavericks .

    Soon , I was looking at the AMNPS , then the Thermopen , and a Grill Cleaner , and this and that...

    Long story short , this is an Expen$ive Hobby [​IMG]  .  Sooooo, welcome to your addiction... [​IMG]  .
     
  11. markyque

    markyque Smoke Blower

    They'll turn out great...don't dump a bunch in in the beginning and just keep the chip tray fed.  Ribs are a lot easier than butt or brisket without the AMNPS.
     
  12. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    It's not really the fault of the MES. It's just the nature of the beast. Find me an Electric smoker that will put out 11 straight hours of perfect smoke (cold or hot smoke), without touching it after you light it properly & put it in the smoker.

    Bear
     
  13. Ive ordered an AMNPS.    In the meantime would you suggest drilling a few small holes in the smoke box?  I've also read of others drilling a few extra breathing and venting holes in this model.
     
  14. coletrian

    coletrian Newbie

    It will be fine w/o mods. I smoked 2 or 3 butts with the mes30 just as it was designed. Just reload the chip tray ever 30 mins. I now have the AMNPS and love the fact that i dont have to go out there ever 30 mins to make smoke. 
     
  15. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    The reason yours doesn't smoke until 250* is because the chip drawer is too far from the heating element, or you might have the model that has an extra piece of metal between the element & the bottom of the chip drawer. Fixing that problem won't give you consistent TBS.

    Once you get the AMNPS, if you have a lot of trouble with air flow, you may want to drill a couple on the bottom left side to allow air in to the AMNPS, but for the "No smoke under 250* " no hole drilling will help that.

    Bear
     
  16. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Not necessarily. If 4evrnyt isn't getting any smoke until 250*, he has a problem yours doesn't have. He may need the retrofix from Masterbuilt.

    However I got mine fixed, but I still never use it. It's a waste of time fixing, because the AMNPS is the way to go.  PERIOD

    Bear
     
  17. Some questions about the AMNPS, being larger then the stock chip box does it simply sit on top of the grate that the current one drops into?  Do I leave the current box in place or remove it?  In videos I see people pre-light their pellets with a butane torch, why is this necessary?   Is it also necessary when using the dust?

    Thanks for the info.
     
  18. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    It depends which MES you have. If you have the older generation, it goes on the bars to the left of the MES chip burner.

    I'm not sure where peeps are putting it in the new generation MES.

    No need to remove the MES chip burner parts.

    You have to use a small torch to light any of them, but it takes longer to get the pellets lit properly than it does the dust.

    Bear
     
  19. How do I tell if I have an older or newer model?  The water pan and the chip box both sit sunk in a metal grate.  The water box is rectangular and on the left side.
     
  20. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    That's the newest model.

    Try setting your AMNPS on the floor, under the water pan on the left.

    If that doesn't work good, I would try removing that little water pan, and set a foil pan on the floor under the square hole,

    Then put the AMNPS on top of the square hole, and a foil pan on a shelf above the AMNPS to protect it from drippings.

    Bear
     

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