Is the AMNPS really worth it on the MES?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by piggeater, Jun 3, 2015.

  1. I have read numerous discussions about the AMNPS: pros and cons.  I am very close to purchasing, but at the same time, I have been satisfied with my results using wood chips in the tube.  I do get frustrated with having to add chips every 1 1/2 to 2 hours, which keeps me from putting the meat on and getting some sleep at night.  But the overall flavor and results have been good.

    Would my purchase of an AMNPS be justified?  same flavor?  same results?  is the sawdust as good as chips?

    Thanks for any advice.
  2. tropics

    tropics Smoking Guru SMF Premier Member ★ Lifetime Premier ★

    Results will definitely different Sleep more not having to add chips. I would suggest using pellets they burn better then chips. I have no experience with dust.Here are some mods I did on my MES40
  3. seenred

    seenred Smoking Guru Group Lead OTBS Member

    Difficult question for anyone but yourself to answer. I used an AMNPS in my old MES for every smoke I ever did in it...worked like a charm, very easy to use with no babysitting the chip loading tray. From a convenience standpoint, they're hard to beat in an MES.

    But I'm an "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" kinda say you are happy with the results you're getting using chips in your MES, so maybe ask yourself, why mess with a good thing? FWIW, the smoke you get from an AMNPS will be cleaner, lighter, bluer...which means your meat would have a more subtle smoke flavor, but with no chance of nasty creosote buildup.

    I don't know if that helps or not...but there's my .02.

    Good luck! Thumbs Up

    Last edited: Jun 4, 2015
  4. bmaddox

    bmaddox Master of the Pit

    Even though the both can get the same end result of producing smoke they are very different. The AMNPS is more versatile and will let you cold smoke or hot smoke (the MES wont burn chips for cold smoking and their attachment is $75). The AMNPS is a more consistent smoke instead of the up and down game of reloading the chips.

    Also, Amazen Products sells a ton of pellet varieties that you probably own't find in chips.

    Sure using an AMNPS requires some level of work to get it to function correctly based on your smoker. Some people or lucky and it burns great with no modifications and other people fight to figure it out.

    After adding a mailbox mod and AMNPS to my MES 30" I will not be going back to chips.
  5. worktogthr

    worktogthr Master of the Pit SMF Premier Member

    In my opinion it is totally worth it.  Electric smokers are advertised as set it and forget it but without an AMNPS they are not at all.  You're fortunate to be getting 1.5-2 hours of smoke.  Some people complain of only about a half hour when they load chips in the tube.  The AMNPS lets you have 10-12 hours of continuous smoke in a smoker that maintains temp on its own.  To me, that is as set and forget it as you can get and in my experience produces some awesome food.  Like others have mentioned, it also opens you up the possibility of cold and/or warm smoking which is great for smoking cheese and cured meats like bacon and sausage.   Like everything when it comes to cooking, there is a learning curve, especially when it comes to lighting it correctly and keeping it lit but if you currently don't mind feeding it chips every hour, the lighting and relighting until you get used to it shouldn't bother you.
  6. oldschoolbbq

    oldschoolbbq Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Yes, the AMNPS is a fine little addition to your "Tools your of the trade" . Also look into the AMNTS. [​IMG]
  7. foamheart

    foamheart Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    I have used charcoal, wood, pellets, chips, and shells.  I have not used dust yet but really see why its used. They all work when used properly, and each has has a diffinate use.

    Wood is best used in large pits, charcoal for Non-electrics, and electrics where a city ordinace is in place or a business has limited room. pellets, chips, shells, and dust are fire flavorings to allow a Non-wood smoker to taste like one.

    Pellets and dust last the longest if you are trying to get the longerst smoke. This is either an expensive pellet smoker or some type of aux. smoke generator like an AMPs. The AMPs can allow you two hours of smoke and I have gotten as much as 20 hours with a well regulated vent.

    The dust tube and a cold smoker are marketed to achieve the same purpose, although they can both be used as a standard smoker. Cold smokers are designed to use minimium heat and oxygen and still maintain smoke.

    What you use is about you. I have an AMPs, bought it after my first smoke of a butt on a digital smoker. It allow a long duration of a small amount of smoke. This is perfect especially for you new smokers because it takes the ability to over smoke thru a heavy handed load out of the smokers ability. It is also long lasting so you need not worry about if you'll get smoke or not thru a lengthy smoke.

    I have pecan trees, for a gazillion years I have used pecan splits from wood gathered after hurricanes and storms. Then I learned that pecan shells offered the same smoke without all the work and its a renewable resource. Thats why I use a MES Cold Smoker with pecan shells. I get approx 6 to 8 hours of smoke according to how I regulate the smoker. Its large smoke, not creosote, but a larger volumne than others. Its perfect for my cold/warm smoking sausage, Andouille, bacon, etc.... I also think its perfect for double smoking. Thats 2 each 6 hour smokes in 2 days. But thats another story.

    I like my AMPs and if it was stolen, I would have to have another. A huge part of liking the AMPs is Todd, and his ability to furnish high quality pellets continiously.

    So you need to consider where you are located, whats the easiest procurement method, the highest quality material, and the type smoking you'll mostly do.

    Most smoke generators when comparing apple to apples, cost about the same.

    Oh and BTW even though I don't have a dust tube yet, I can tell you they are basically built as a cold smoker.  All smokers can do all smokes, but its the right tool for the right job that makes life easiest.

    As to you original question, I think I best anwsered it best by, "If someone stole my AMP's, I would have to replace it". You'll invest more in pellets than in the smoker itself. Quality product at an extremely reasonable price. I would probably think about the AMPs dust tray in if you live in the south simply because of the heat. I don't know how the price and avaailability of dust is compared to pellets.

    You should not try to introduce the wrong smoker medium to an aux. smoker. IT can cause a meltdown.
  8. bigforkg

    bigforkg Newbie

    With the problems I'm having with keeping the AMNPS going my answer to you is NO NO NO!
  9. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    I'll answer that question by simply saying I probably would have quit smoking if it wasn't for the invention of the AMNS, and then the AMNPS awhile later.

    If I can get up to 11 straight hours of Perfect, continuous, consistent smoke without having to touch it, once I get it lit properly, why would I want to do it any other way???

  10. hoity toit

    hoity toit Master of the Pit SMF Premier Member

    I have issues once in a while with the AMPS, but not very often. It IS my preferred method of producing smoke, not to say the least expensive. It works consistently once you figure it out.No way I will ever go back to chips.,EVER. ...I LOVE MY AMA Z N SMOKER Trays !!!!!!!!!!  THATS ALL IM GONNA SAY.

    Big difference between smokin, grilling and BBQing...
    Last edited: Jun 4, 2015
  11. piratey

    piratey Newbie

    AMNTS works well for me as well.  Took a while to figure out the right air draw, lighting and vent placement but ever since, it has worked well.
  12. chef jimmyj

    chef jimmyj Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator Group Lead OTBS Member

    Some 45 years ago folks asked..." Is it really worth ordering a HEMI for my 'Cuda? " [​IMG]     [​IMG]    Get the AMNPS if you have a Gen 1 MES 20070311 or 20070411. Any other model get the AMNTS  for internal use or do the Mailbox Mod with the AMNPS...JJ 
    Last edited: Jun 5, 2015
  13. I have a MES 40 1st gen and use a AMNPS and love it ...... works 10 times better than the chip tray . There is a short learning curve but its easy to master
  14. daveomak

    daveomak Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    I am very glad and happy Todd came up with the smoke generators he has designed and sells...... below are mods I have made, because I have time... the MES 30 is awesome with all the mods....

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  15. hoity toit

    hoity toit Master of the Pit SMF Premier Member

    The answer is ALWAYS YES., Buy it. Proven and Works. Enough said.

  16. vwaldoguy

    vwaldoguy Smoke Blower

    I'm new to smoking, and started using the Amazen smoker tray.  Seemed easier than having to add chips every 30 minutes to an hour.
  17. And my final answer is.................. BUY IT!
  18. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Not only Easier:

    Also Smoother smoke, more mild tasting, more constant & consistent smoke.

  19. mummel

    mummel Master of the Pit

    I got to agree.  The AMPS is genius. 
  20. foamheart

    foamheart Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Ya know, the questions is much like asking, "is the radio really worth it in your pick 'em up truck or your VW"?

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