Brisket method in newsletter

fatboy · Jul 1, 2010

I noticed in the month's newsletter that Jeff refers to "A few tricks of his own" when it comes to brisket.

He goes on to describe cooking the brisket in a pan and turning it twice, then covering it with foil.

Is it me, or is this not just almost exactly the same thing that is done in the Smoky Okie Brisket method that was published in an '08 newsletter? I think it is the same thing with the timing hanged slightly and the sear omitted. The target temp even appears to be the same.

Surely if Jeff had borrowed this from the Okie, he wold have given credit where credit was due.

I must be missing something

matts · Jul 1, 2010

That could be read different ways, the way you read it and the way I read it. I read it in the way that say that those are uncommon tricks that he uses. I didn't see it as it was something that he invented and is the only one that uses it.

I don't think it is something that Jeff needs to be called out on.

pineywoods · Jul 1, 2010

Maybe Okie took part of the method from Jeff and didn't give him credit

Bearcarver · Jul 1, 2010

I'm sure Jeff copies a lot of things, as do many of us:

He probably steers his car with his hands, instead of his feet---copied from me I'll bet ----I never could steer with my feet.

I sometimes steer with my knee, if I have food in both hands, but I don't know if Jeff ever saw that and/or copied it.

Bearcarver

TulsaJeff · Jul 1, 2010

Smoking meat in a pan was not invented by anyone that I know.. been done for decades and beyond most likely. The smokie okie method as I remember was all about searing the brisket over a hot fire which I just don't get into myself. Nothing personal.. I just tend to get great results without the searing process.

Furthermore, I never said I came up with it. If I knew who came up with it I would gladly give credit where credit is due.

Now if Tim claims to have invented smoking meat in a pan, namely brisket, I would have to differ with him on that.

Use the method or not.. it works wonderful and I have been doing it this way off and on for a number of years.

Having said all of that.. I have had smokie okie's brisket (made by the man himself) and it is very good.

Enough said.

rio_grande · Jul 1, 2010

Ya know my new special carolina sauce is really a recipe given me by Jerry, Do I need to credit Jerry (who I bet got it from someone else) with it's origin?

I just think we are splittin hairs to get too upset with this. There is a local company using a adjustment block design of mine. I have heard that mechanics from the plant in italy saw it and are now using them from day one in new production machines. I am pretty sure they dont call it the Davies adjustmet block. LOL Guarantee I have never gotten a check or an attaboy.

Maybee I am comparing apples to oranges but in this day and age how many truly orignal ideas are there a year? The adjustment block was an orignal Idea, or I though till I saw the same basic thing used years later on a baler which made me know then that I had gotten it somewhere else and applied it to the problem at hand..... Uh Oh I better call itally and tell them that is really the New Holland adjustment block...

:)

pineywoods · Jul 1, 2010

Almost enough boss. This person has been banned more than once on this site for violating the rules and just keeps registering under a new name and new email address. Since his only reason for being here is to try to start crap I am going to ban him again. I'm sure we will see him again in the future with a new name but he'll still be playing his same ole lame game

TulsaJeff · Jul 1, 2010

Bearcarver said:
I'm sure Jeff copies a lot of things, as do many of us:

He probably steers his car with his hands, instead of his feet---copied from me I'll bet ----I never could steer with my feet.

I sometimes steer with my knee, if I have food in both hands, but I don't know if Jeff ever saw that and/or copied it.

Bearcarver

How did you know I steer with my knees and eat ribs while I'm driving?!!

TulsaJeff · Jul 1, 2010

Pineywoods said:
Almost enough boss. This person has been banned more than once on this site for violating the rules and just keeps registering under a new name and new email address. Since his only reason for being here is to try to start crap I am going to ban him again. I'm sure we will see him again in the future with a new name but he'll still be playing his same ole lame game

Good job, Jerry. Probably the you "know who crowd" who can't talk about nothing but us cause we're that special

TulsaJeff · Jul 1, 2010

I unlocked this thread.. if for no other reason than the entertainment value it is providing me

abigail4476 · Jul 1, 2010

Fatboy, that's like me saying I invented baking a cake in a glass dish, at 350 until a toothpick inserted in the middle comes out clean. Regardless of personal flair, most methods will bear similarities, and that's just a fact.

You're right--IF Jeff had borrowed this from Okie, he would have given credit where it was due. When Jeff posted about prime rib the other day, he stated that he used "Emeril's rib rub." He certainly didn't try to pass it off as his own concoction.

This accusation is silly and juvenile. My Daddy used to say, "You don't look under a bed unless you've been there once yourself." Consider that, young grasshopper.

Fatboy said:
I noticed in the month's newsletter that Jeff refers to "A few tricks of his own" when it comes to brisket.

He goes on to describe cooking the brisket in a pan and turning it twice, then covering it with foil.

Is it me, or is this not just almost exactly the same thing that is done in the Smoky Okie Brisket method that was published in an '08 newsletter? I think it is the same thing with the timing hanged slightly and the sear omitted. The target temp even appears to be the same.

Surely if Jeff had borrowed this from the Okie, he wold have given credit where credit was due.

I must be missing something

TulsaJeff · Jul 1, 2010

Abigail4476 said:
Fatboy, that's like me saying I invented baking a cake in a glass dish, at 350 until a toothpick inserted in the middle comes out clean. Regardless of personal flair, most methods will bear similarities, and that's just a fact.

You're right--IF Jeff had borrowed this from Okie, he would have given credit where it was due. When Jeff posted about prime rib the other day, he stated that he used "Emeril's rib rub." He certainly didn't try to pass it off as his own concoction.

This accusation is silly and juvenile. My Daddy used to say, "You don't look under a bed unless you've been there once yourself." Consider that, young grasshopper.

Where's the LIKE button on this thing? Oh.. that's facebook!!

Bearcarver · Jul 1, 2010

TulsaJeff said:
How did you know I steer with my knees and eat ribs while I'm driving?!!

I knew!

And since I was steering with my knees when you were too young to drive, I would have to say you copied that from me!

Bear

dick foster · Jul 1, 2010

I think I will claim credit for cooking with fire. The way they go on and talk, a lot of my younger friends seem to think I am old enough.

richoso1 · Jul 1, 2010

Dick Foster said:
I think I will claim credit for cooking with fire. The way they go on and talk, a lot of my younger friends seem to think I am old enough.

Since I'm probably older than you, I'll take credit for sun dried tomatoes. I did that before fire was invented. I think...

TulsaJeff · Jul 1, 2010

You guys are cracking me up!!

Should we just go ahead and move this to the jokes forum?

richoso1 · Jul 1, 2010

TulsaJeff said:
You guys are cracking me up!!

Should we just go ahead and move this to the jokes forum?

That seems appropiate, after all the whole thing is a joke to most of us. BTW, contrary to popular belief, I didn't break bread at the last supper...I'll give that credit to the person who invented croutons.

pineywoods · Jul 1, 2010

Dick Foster said:
I think I will claim credit for cooking with fire. The way they go on and talk, a lot of my younger friends seem to think I am old enough.

Are you also taking credit for being the first one to grab something hot off the fire with bare hands

richoso1 · Jul 1, 2010

Pineywoods said:
Are you also taking credit for being the first one to grab something hot off the fire with bare hands

That's how he ended up taking credit for oven mitts.

pineywoods · Jul 1, 2010

I have invented new methods of doing things to but I don't want to talk about them or the hospital trips that usually followed said new method

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