Ok. I've been reading the forum and following Jeff's methods for quite a while now with huge sucess. This past weekend I did some loinbacks and they came out dry. Have been doing them for some time now using 3-1.5-1 and they always come out real tender. The only thing I really know was different was the smoker was running hot (150-160) for the first hour. Could I have cooked them too quick? They had little pullback and not very tender, yet temp was 172 when I pulled them. And by the way. Even though I never post, I really appreciate all the information you guys and gals have put out there. It has been a tremendous help.