Love Those Needle Valves !!!

dick bullard · Feb 5, 2010

Just finished my second smoke since installing a needle valve on my GOSM.....originally was to help the low end come summer time.....but what a great mod.!!! The ability to fine tune your temps. is unbelievable.....wish the the GOSMs came with a control valve like this..if you've been thinking about this mod.....ya got to go for it.....you'll not regret it.....fairly cheap and very simple to do. I just turned on the smoker to high and regulated the temp with the needle valve ....

The valve took a couple of adapters to fit my particular regulator hose !

Rick

pops6927 · Feb 5, 2010

Where did you get it from? I'm going to build a wooden smokehouse and have been researching burners for it; there's a 15,000 btu single camp stove burner available on Cabela's that someone else used, but didn't know if it would be too much, and how to cut it down; this sounds like the way to go. let me know what you think, not very experienced w/propane.

richoso1 · Feb 5, 2010

Clean looking mod. What temp were you able to keep without the flame blowing out? I'm very interested in using that same setup for summer smokes.

mudduck · Feb 5, 2010

I DID mine that way work great here is where to get the valve
they have burner too

http://www.bayouclassicdepot.com/nv1...urner_part.htm

http://gassmoker.com/index.htm

sdesmond · Feb 5, 2010

Why can you not just adjust the valve on the Propane tank? I would think that it would work the same exact way. Am I missing something?

aeroforce100 · Feb 5, 2010

Having delivered propane for 9 years, I think I am qualified to say that most propane tank valves are designed to be either fully open, or fully closed. Due to the design, and packing on the valve stem, there is a possibility of leakage if the valve is not fully open or fully closed.

sdesmond · Feb 5, 2010

Thanks for the clarification on that. Now I see the reason for it.

mudduck · Feb 5, 2010

i tryed the tank deal it just won't work
when you try to trun it down it will go out

smokemifugotem · Feb 5, 2010

Even if you tried to regulate your flow with the valve on the tank, the job of the regulator controls your flow amount. If you just barely turned on the tank, the regulator would still do its job. In order to have control you need a valve after the regulator to adjust flow.

dick bullard · Feb 5, 2010

Haven't tried measuring the low temp yet, but I have turned the flame down to about 1/2 the size I get with the original control.....having done that, I have fanned the flame....blown on the flame and without really making an effort could not get the flame to blow out.

The link before by "mudduck" is where I bought my valve.....actually bought two of them (same shipping price)....they arrived I believe on the 3rd day after ordering...quite fast, and they come by 1st class mail.

The adapters I used are available at Home Depot....I used 2 on one side of the valve and 1 on the other side. There was no single adapter available for the one side of the valve.....(checked at two places...don't think one exist)

Ran the smoker for 5 hrs.last night at 250*.....by tweaking the valve I could vary the temp. by very...very small amounts....you won't be dissappointed if you try one !!!

Rick

okie joe · Feb 5, 2010

Thanks that might just the ticket,,,,building a cold smoker....need control on my GOSM also...two for same shipping...deal

mudduck · Feb 5, 2010

i used pipe fiting on mine it is the same as brass just use pipe dope

nwdave · Feb 5, 2010

I bought the same needle valve from a local supplier (Came in a Bayou wrapper). The female end of the valve is not a problem, just have to use 1/4" and 1/8" female reducer to fit to the hose. However, the male side of the valve (which screws into the tank regulator) uses a Left Hand thread pattern (I was told that these valves were originally designed for a weed burner application, then used for other applications) and the LH pattern is not commonly available.

Were you able to find a LH to RH conversion piece or more accurately, what piece did you use to adapt the male end to the regulator?

I was set up with a ball valve for gas applications, which while not as fine a control as the needle valve, works quite well for our needs. My minimum temp in the chamber is approximately 122* measured with my ET-73 probe positioned approximately 20 inches above the burner. I might be able to get it lower, but I'm concerned with the wind blowing out the flame.

All parts were readily available at Lowe's, in the gas piping section (all brass fittings).

1- 3/8" Gas Ball Valve
2- 3/8 MIP x 1/8 FIP Bushing
1- Brass Pipe Nipple 1/8 MIP x close
Total price was 11.61 (without tax).

mudduck · Feb 5, 2010

i used a 1/4" x1 1/2" pipe Nipple 1/8" Bushing down to 1/4"
all my thread were right hand

dick bullard · Feb 5, 2010

All my threads were right handed also.....maybe that's why Bayou sold off those particular ones to another supplier !

Rick

mudduck · Feb 5, 2010

nwdave parts #Item #: NV108P

csmith2884 · Feb 5, 2010

For my money I would use this http://www.gassmoker.com/v-burner.htm I love mine can hold any heat and was all together and ready to go, even has a hard extension so no rubber line in the smokehouse..I will be building one in the spring (want more room for ribs) and plan on using the same base (burner) I have now. Also good customer service, they know their stuff and will help you get just the right size or style you need.

Also put me down as a needle valve fan, with practice I can get mine to hold almost as good as an oven.

dick bullard · Feb 10, 2010

Here is my second installation this time on my Brinkmann gas conversion....there were no threaded fittings on the hose just hose clamps....so needed different adapters for valve......these adapters also were bought at Home Depot......hose clamps are of your own choice....

ADAPTERS AND VALVE

You could use this type installation on any hose between regulator and burner......

Rick

csmith2884 · Feb 10, 2010

Nice photos, **** that helps.

ryanje · Feb 13, 2010

Do the needle valves help keep a consistend flame. I have a proplem with my 36" vertical. In order to keep it near 225 it has to be turned almost all the way down. Then, the flame is easily blown by wind and seams to get stuck on low after a while. I have to crank it back up and then down for it to maintain the temp.

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