Turkey Brine

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huskersmokeman

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Jan 19, 2008
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Hey gang,

I'm brining a 13 pound turkey tonight, and am gonna smoke it tomorrow for supper (my first Turkey). What, besides Kosher salt, should I toss in that Brine? I can't get 'er too spicy, the little one's have to be able to eat it, but I'm thinking I need to add something. Or am I wrong, and should I leave my first bird at smoke and nothing but smoke?
 
Try this if ya wan't husker:

Poultry Brine:

1 1/2 Gal Water
1/2 C Salt
1/2 C Dark Brown Sugar
2 tsp Garlic Powder
2 tsp onion Powder
2 tsp Cajun Spice
2 tsp Celery Salt

Mix well and brine over night, quick rinse in the mornin and pat dry.

Poultry Injection Recipe:

1/2 Pkg Good Seasons Italian Dressing
2 tsp Garlic Powder
2 tsp Celery Seed
2 TBs Melted Butter
2 C Apple Cider

Mix well and inject bird then brine.

This makes for a very tastey and juicy bird without bein spicy. It's Mommas favorite!
This recipe is for two chickens, however you can always double it if ya need to for doin a turkey!

Good luck and good smokes!
 
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I've got to rinse it to get the sugar off, right? Otherwise it will burn. What do you use for a smoking temp? I've heard 250, I've heard 275, and I've heard 300. I'm not sure which way to go. Is Hickory a good choice of wood, or too strong? I also have some apple, and some sugar maple.
 
by the way, thanks for the brine advice Travcoman and Texas-Hunter. I think I'll try Travcoman's brine, and throw some Rosemary in it. Can't go wrong with that!

Steve
 
I smoke mine at 250*, then spritz each hour with my spray. Helps with a nice glaze and the skin is not as rubbery.

I like a stronger smoke flavor, so I use hickory, you can use a blend of hickory and apple, just apple or that fine maple you have. That is personal preference as to how strong of a smoke flavor you like.

The rinse simply helps wash off any salt that has collected on the skin so as not to be to salty.

The spritz I use is:

8 oz Apple Cider
6 oz Water
4 oz of Whiskey
2 oz Cider Vinegar

Towards the end of the smoke, some folks turn up the heat to the 300* mark to crisp the skin or place in the oven to do this as well. Never been an issue for me, this is another personal preference point. I would smoke to an internal temp of 167* - 170* in the meat of the breast.

Good luck and good smokes!
 
I'll try that. Thanks again, Travcoman...I knew you Iowans would be able to help a Nebraskan out.
 
6 OZ of frozen OJ concentrate is my addition to the fine brines listed above. Tried it for the first time for my easter smoke. You wont be sorry and you wont have leftovers. Happy smoking!!!
 
Thanks, Smokin' Joe, I'll give that a try on my next attempt. I've got big bird dipping in rosemary, garlic, kosher salt and onion, with a brick (in a plastic bag) stuck in the bird to make him sink. Does your O.J. brine work well on chicken?
 
Smokewatcher,

Sounds like we all go for the garlic and the onion, I can't wait to smoke this baby tomorrow!!!
 
I'm probally a little late on this one. But here's the recipie I use for poultry.

Chicken/Turkey
Brining



Brining is simple technique of soaking the bird in water with salt and maybe sugar and a few spices added. It could be simply water and salt but hey while that birds sucking in the water donâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t you want it to drag in all your favorite spices too? Brining requires that you soak the bird in the brining solution either over night up to 24 hours, or at least four to six hours before smoking.

Brining solution:




1-1/2 gallons ice cold water
1 cup salt (sea or kosher)(if solution added use ½ cup)
2 teaspoons Garlic Power
2 teaspoons Onion Powder
2 teaspoons Cajun Spice
1/3 cup Dextrose or sugar - optional


* Sugar is optional. Some people say it helps balance the salt but most recipes will suggest you use as much as a full cup of salt – that would be salty for my taste and you would really need sugar to offset the saltiness. I choose to reduce the salt instead. Although Pure Vermont Maple Syrup is a nice flavor to add to that bird!

Take a few cups of water and boil it. You can throw it in a microwave for a few minutes to speed up the process. Place it in a heat resistant bowl and stir in your salt and sugar to dissolve them. The salt is the hardest to dissolve, so keep your eyes on it. Once they have dissolved add the rest of your spices stir them in then add a few ice cubes to cool it down or just wait. Now add youâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]re the mix to your ice water and stir it up well.

Throw the bird in the brine, tilting the cavity up so it fills with water and doesnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t try to float. Place something heavy on top to keep the turkey submerged and wait. I like to inject the bird at about 3 inch intervals with the brine water on shorter brines or 4 to 6 hours to sort of jump start it.

NOTE: if you are brining in the summer you may want to add an ice cube tray full of ice once or twice during a 24 hour brine or if you have a container that will hold the bird and brine you can place in the refrigerator do it. You want to keep this bird below 40ºF to prevent bacterial growth!


Brining requires that you soak the bird in the brining solution either over night up to 24 hours, or four to six hours before smoking. After the brining is complete rinse the bird in clear fresh water to rinse off any extra salt that may be on the bird. Rinse for about 5 minutes changing the water a few times. Donâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t soak the bird just rinse


Flavor Injecting
Flavor Injecting, injecting for short, is taking a solution of some kind of fluid and spices in a large syringe made for food, filling it, then injecting the fluid into the meat. Itâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]s a way of spicing up the meat on the inside and making it tastier and juicier in the process.


The injector can be purchased at most department stores and cooking shops. One of my injectors looks like the one above. There are numerous injectors available at a full range of prices. I even bough one at Wal-Mart for like $4.

NOTE: When not using the injector, remove the needle, slide the piston in almost all the way with the cap off and slip the needle in the piston shaft, screw the cap down. The needle is a bit to long to snug the cap down but it will keep you from getting stuck by the needle or keep you from loosing it!

My favorite injection mixture and rub for poultry is below:


1 stick of margarine, butter or Butter Buds
3/4 teaspoon Garlic Power
3/4 teaspoon Onion Powder
3/4 teaspoon Cajun Spice
1/4 teaspoon white pepper


Place you bird in a shallow pan or a clean sink this can get messy and it also will allow you to collect and reuse the spilled injector fluids to rub the outer surface of the skin.

Inject the bird in several spots all over it. I use a spacing of about three inches. If you inject deeply into the meat at an angle you can flavor a lot of meat without poking a lot of holes. As to press the injector plunger in slowly pull the needle out at about the same rate of speed. Donâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t forget the wings and legs! One or two injections in a wing or leg parallel to the bone will do it!

If your using butter as your base it will start to solidify once injected and the stuff that spills can be rubbed on the surface of the skin. I also sprinkle some of the same blend of spices on the outside of the bird. It will stick to the butter you just rubbed all over the bird. You can do this or add a bit of your favorite rub.



Smoking the Bird

Once the bird is brined, and injected you can begin your smoke. Now the general rule for smoking dictates a low and slow with light wispy smoke. This is not the best method for smoking poultry however. Unlike briskets, Boston butts and ribs poultry does not have tough connective tissues that need be to broken down. Poultry is naturally tender and fatty. The skin on poultry is full of fat compressed between the layers of the skin. In orderto render this fat and get a nice crispy skin you need higher temperatures!



Smoke poultry at between 300º - 375º F for the best results.


NOTE: Some smokers will not consistently reach 350 o F let alone 375 o F - this is the reason I have given you a full range of temperatures to choose from. Whatever the highest temperature is in that range that your smokers is capable of – use that temperature!

Whatever temperature you to use smoke the poultry - smoke it until it reaches 168ºF in the thickest part of the thigh or breast. Poultry cooking time ends up being between 15 and 20 minutes per pound of meat between 300 and 375ºF, but itâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]s still the temperature is what you need to watch – not the time. The time is just a guideline for a guess of when to start cooking not when to finish cooking!

Woods like cherry, orange and tangerine will give your poultry a nice deep red/orange color with great flavor. Try mixing these in with your other favorite smoking woods! I like to mix theses woods with hickory or pecan.


Once the bird reaches 165º F, let it rest with foil tented but not touching over the bird for 20 minutes or so before carving to allow the juices to redistribute throughout the meat. The internal temperature will continue to rise by about 5º F after removing it from the smoker.
 
That is an incredible wealth of information, glued2it! Much appreciated! As far as the cooking goes, I have a MES that only goes up to 275, so I guess I'll just have to see how that goes.

Thanks again!
 
Good luck.  I did two last year (first time).  One brined and one not.  To me, the brined was much juicer, but did not pick up as much smoke.  Both were still very tasty.  I brought them over to a friends house... they weren't sure that they'd like the smoked turkey so they actually roasted one just in case.  Needless to say, the roasted turkey was the loneliest bird in the room!

Eager to hear how yours works out.
 
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