Re: BaconDutch, here is the problem my wife has a thing for all natural beef, pork, chciken and so on. I'd like to find a source for certain cuts .. like "Pork Bellies" Boston Butts <I live close to Boston and can only find shoulders, I think the grind the all the butts to make sausages> There are meat packing plants in Boston but there only open until 10am on saturdays, closed sundays. We did find a farm out here but they think thier selling gold .. close to 5.00 per lb for all natural pork, chops, butts or roast. The beef ribs I smoked were 1.99 per lb again all natural and the all natural ribs I get are close to 6.00 per lb.. I have a choice .. continue buying this all natural meat <the flavor is excelent as well as the tenderness, color and marbeling> or hmm naww I'll keep the wife, she is worth it.