1st Attempt at Whole Hog

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smokefever

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Feb 23, 2010
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Good morning everyone, I thought I'd get a jump on this thread so I have a few weeks to soak up advice and get a solid gameplan. I'm no stranger to cooking large amounts of meat on my rig. I am, however, a complete newbie when it comes to whole hog.

A buddy of mine has started raising pigs, so I purchased two of them. One is a suckling that will be ready for our end of summer cookout. The other is 80lbs right now, so by the 29th of this month Im hoping it puts on a solid 15#. We are feeding it "Hog Mash," which is a finishing feed and also giving it apples and a cpl bottles/week of hard apple cider.

Before I go further, here is a quick shot of my rig. Its a 250gal reverse flow cooker with steam pan built into the baffle.


The plan is to have the pig slaughtered on the 29th. Im going to have the butcher take the feet off and butterfly it so the pig fits nicely on the rack. Im buying a 150qt cooler this weekend to use for transport. I'll oil the skin, and put a good amount of rub in the cavity and inject the hams and shoulders. I'll foil the ears and snout so they dont burn during cooking.

My parents plan on eating somewhere between 1-3 pm. This gives me a pretty decent window to work with. I get off work Friday night at 830 so ill have to make the 45 min trip up to PA around 9pm. Now the part that Im not so sure about.....cooking time. Ive seen where people say to expect 1 hr cook time per 10lbs. If this holds true than I can expect it to be finished in 8-10 hours. In that case, I could have the smoker up to temp and pig on at 3am, leaving enough time to get the smoker temp down some if it is progressing faster than I expect and for it to rest 30 mins or so before tearing into it.

I like to run my cooker at 250-275. It has no problem holding temp for hours so thats the easy part. Ill be using red oak for fuel and apple wood for flavor. I know Im in the right place for advice, you guys and gals are amazing and I appreciate your input
 
Sounds like you have a solid plan. I can't help with the timing much, the whole pigs I've done have been done in the ground not a smoker. Those took 8-10 hours.

I'll hang on for the ride.
 
Excited to watch this one too! The ones I have been around were done in a La Caja China but that is a different critter. So I'm not too much help on times and temps.
 
I'm excited to see what you turn out.

I am assuming pork skin suffers the same issue chicken/turkey skin does at temps under 325F.  Have you done any research to see what is needed to have edible pork skin with a whole hog cook rather than football leather?

I'm also curious to see what you find out in the skin department :)
 
Thanks everyone, pretty excited to get this thing going. Gonna be a long couple weeks for sure!


I'm excited to see what you turn out.

I am assuming pork skin suffers the same issue chicken/turkey skin does at temps under 325F.  Have you done any research to see what is needed to have edible pork skin with a whole hog cook rather than football leather?

I'm also curious to see what you find out in the skin department :)

I havent cooked pork skins yet, but everyone i have talked to has said they save the skin and fry it to make cracklins/chicharonnes. I'll see what my options are after i get through the cook and post results here
 
I'm excited to see how this turns out as well since I hope to have that same set-up in the future!
 
Good afternoon,
Just a few thought about your plans. Remember that 100 lbs live pig is probably going to have ruffly a 65-70 lb carcass.
Make sure that the butcher is going to leave the skin on it a lot of them are skinning hogs out here.
Two issue I have had cooking whole hogs first getting the sholders done without over cooking the the rest of the hog and turning the belly into a dried out stringy waste of good meat. This might not be as much of a problem on a RF I use to use charcoal in a indirect set up. Remember that belly is probably going to be less than an inch.
I feel that your cook time might be closer to 6-8 hours. How long is your cook time on a 5-6 lb pork butt on your rig?

I am assuming (which I hate to do) that you are leaving the head on for show and will cut it up when everyone is there. If not I would cut it up and put it in a roaster when it's done.

PABEEF
 
Good afternoon,
Just a few thought about your plans. Remember that 100 lbs live pig is probably going to have ruffly a 65-70 lb carcass.
Make sure that the butcher is going to leave the skin on it a lot of them are skinning hogs out here.
Two issue I have had cooking whole hogs first getting the sholders done without over cooking the the rest of the hog and turning the belly into a dried out stringy waste of good meat. This might not be as much of a problem on a RF I use to use charcoal in a indirect set up. Remember that belly is probably going to be less than an inch.
I feel that your cook time might be closer to 6-8 hours. How long is your cook time on a 5-6 lb pork butt on your rig?

I am assuming (which I hate to do) that you are leaving the head on for show and will cut it up when everyone is there. If not I would cut it up and put it in a roaster when it's done.

PABEEF

Thanks for the comment....to answer your questions, the pig will be skin on. My butcher knows exactly what I am expecting. I dont usually cook 5lb butts, all of mine are 10lbs + and they take 9 hours give or take to be finished. The head will still be on. One concern I have is that the bottom grate of the smoker is the coolest, so thats why Im allowing some extra cook time. I definitely want to avoid having everyone standing around hungry. Id love to get the pig on at 5am instead of 3. That just means more sleep for me that night. Have you done 70lbers?? And if so, what temp and time did you end up with?
 
Sounds like you have a solid plan. I can't help with the timing much, the whole pigs I've done have been done in the ground not a smoker. Those took 8-10 hours.

I'll hang on for the ride.

I'm afrsid I'm like Case--not much help on this one. Ive only ever done one whole pig and that was on coals and in the ground. We put it in the ground late at night and pulled it out the next morning.

Obviously I'll never be able to do a whole hog in my MES 30 so I'm just along for the ride on this one.

Good luck.

Gary
 
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I'm afrsid I'm like Case--not much help on this one. Ive only ever done one whole pig and that was on coals and in the ground. We put it in the ground late at night and pulled it out the next morning.

Obviously I'll never be able to do a whole hog in my MES 30 so I'm just along for the ride on this one.

Good luck.

Gary

I appreciate it Gary, we'll see what happens. The time is really my main concern at this point. I feel pretty confident about the rest. Stick around, there's going to be a TON of QView!
 
I've been wanting to do a whole pig too. I bought one, but couldn't it in my Masterbuilt portable smoker. This is the main reason I have upgraded to the Smoke Vault 18. Might do two pigs at once on there. 
 
I'm in!
Can we rent a party bus, and go 'Whole Hog' with a DJ and bartender? :biggrin:

Hi SmokeFever
sounds like a fun cook, and sounds like a good game plan.
That's a nice looking setup ya have there

Like the others I'm not gonna be much help, but I like to talk BBQ so here is what little I know.

The only whole pigs Ive cooked have been skinned, feral piglets.
I always grilled mine, as I didn't have a smoker then. But wood chips over a burner does an OK job of getting some smoke into the meat.
Never cooked skin-on, as we always skin their nasty, filthy, vermin ridden hides off.
I've always put several layers of folded aluminum foil under the ribs to divert heat and slow their cooking.
Not enough belly on the piglets to worry about, we just trim it off to the loin.

Here is one piglet I did, http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/253224/whole-feral-piglet-and-some-other-goodies

Never cooked a whole adult pig, my grill isn't big enough.
And lets face it, it is just easier to cook different parts, to different temps so as to have the best of each cut.
So the larger piggies all get butchered into primal/sub-primal cuts.
 
Good afternoon Smoke Fever,
Sorry for not getting back sooner I went off the grid for the weekend.
No I have never done one at 70 lbs most of mine ran between 180 & 220 lbs carcass. I always planned for a 12 hour cook with good results. Some times we had to slice the shoulder because they were not done enough to pull closer to 180 it.
You are correct it no fun to have everyone waiting for you to Finnish the meat, it's about as unnerving as turn in time at a contest. I think that 8 hours should do it be sure to watch your I. T. Across the hole hog your shoulder will be the slowest part to Finnish is my experience. Think about grabbing the Turkey cooker for the skins.
Good
PABEEF
 
Wow this all sounds delicious.... I'll be watching this one for sure... This is something on my list of smokes I want to do..... Hope you post lots of pics.... Best of luck....
 
I'm in!
Can we rent a party bus, and go 'Whole Hog' with a DJ and bartender? :biggrin:

Hi SmokeFever
sounds like a fun cook, and sounds like a good game plan.
That's a nice looking setup ya have there

Like the others I'm not gonna be much help, but I like to talk BBQ so here is what little I know.

The only whole pigs Ive cooked have been skinned, feral piglets.
I always grilled mine, as I didn't have a smoker then. But wood chips over a burner does an OK job of getting some smoke into the meat.
Never cooked skin-on, as we always skin their nasty, filthy, vermin ridden hides off.
I've always put several layers of folded aluminum foil under the ribs to divert heat and slow their cooking.
Not enough belly on the piglets to worry about, we just trim it off to the loin.

Here is one piglet I did, http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/253224/whole-feral-piglet-and-some-other-goodies

Never cooked a whole adult pig, my grill isn't big enough.
And lets face it, it is just easier to cook different parts, to different temps so as to have the best of each cut.
So the larger piggies all get butchered into primal/sub-primal cuts.


That looked like a pretty awesome cook! I think Im gonna be ok as far as not foiling a whole lot because my botton grate is significantly lower in temp (i usually move meat to top rack so bark will form) Im gonna plan for 8 hours cook time, but ill have it on a cpl hrs earlier and shut everything down if it cooks faster. Gonna be a good time regardless [emoji]127867[/emoji]


Good afternoon Smoke Fever,
Sorry for not getting back sooner I went off the grid for the weekend.
No I have never done one at 70 lbs most of mine ran between 180 & 220 lbs carcass. I always planned for a 12 hour cook with good results. Some times we had to slice the shoulder because they were not done enough to pull closer to 180 it.
You are correct it no fun to have everyone waiting for you to Finnish the meat, it's about as unnerving as turn in time at a contest. I think that 8 hours should do it be sure to watch your I. T. Across the hole hog your shoulder will be the slowest part to Finnish is my experience. Think about grabbing the Turkey cooker for the skins.
Good
PABEEF

I will definitely be making sure to keep a good eye on the temps. Im going to put it on bottom grate with the head/shoulder towards the end of the baffle so hopefully it cooks as closeto even as I can get it. I'll take pictures this weekend of inside the cooker without the grates in so you all can see exactly how my setup is.


Wow this all sounds delicious.... I'll be watching this one for sure... This is something on my list of smokes I want to do..... Hope you post lots of pics.... Best of luck....

One thing you dont have to worry about with my posts is lack of pictures. There will be tons of them taken!
 
Nice rig and good plan. Whole hog fascinates me. Sorry another person just watching with no advice.


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Plan sounds solid.. just let me add ... If your planning on moving to top rack later in the cook.... just use that rack (top) for the whole cook ... meaning take the bottom rack out of smoker and use the top rack on the bottom... this way you won't have to switch the hog from one rack to the other when time comes... since the bottom rack won't fit on the top (not on mine at least) ... good luck and I'm along for the ride as well ...



Looking forward to seeing this!

A whole hog is & has been on my bucket list.

Al


The Gathering could be your chance
 
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